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Yes, many asteroids appear to be mere rubble piles (Itokawa, for example). If we try something drastic like explosives or attaching a rocket in it the whole thing will break apart. If we have decades to act, we can use very gentle methods because all we have to do is to change the orbit very slightly in order to prevent it hitting us.
Probes are absolutely necessary in order to know the "enemy".
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"Chance to hit" is a guesstimation based on --at present-- woefully incomplete data. The more accurate information you have, the more you can predict.
And if someone with a big brain cracks the N-body problem, that'll help too. ![]()
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But more may not be good enough. If you want to avoid paying for a deflection system altogether you have to be pretty sure that there are no short or medium term risks. I'm just not sure if it's technically and economically feasible at the moment. It's even possible that it is cheaper to develop a way to deflect 50-300 m asteroids on a few month' notice than to build a tracking system which can reliably rule out an impact over 20 years timescales. Maybe not,I really don't know. That's why I'm asking.
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How much might a deflection method(s) cost? How much for a better observation system?
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yes.........well, for a while, scientists tried busting up a few icebergs.
Never made a dent in them. And...you are going to break up or move an iron/nickel object 2000 feet in dieameter? Interesting at best. And....most of these things are tumbling. |
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The last thing you'd like to do is to break it up. Instead of one big bang, there could be several smaller but still each of them devastating enough. Therefore the total damage might be much larger. Unless, of course, the impactor is small enough so that its pieces become harmless. Also, in the case of rubble piles like Itokawa or Styrofoam asteroids like Mathilde explosives make little difference. Rubble or porous structure can make the asteroid to withstand major explosions without breaking it apart (see images of Mathilde if you don't believe).
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Breaking it up would be ludicrously dangerous. Except in movies, of course! Only a small number of methods that I've read about would be affected by the tumbling. And deflection is simpler than moving an iceberg through water.
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So, the chance of Apophis hitting the earth is 1 in 45,000. Okay, but what are the chances that it would hit the US? It's not just a cost benefit analysis for the world but for the people who will actually spend the money. If we thought the asteroid was going to crash into a country that is our enemy, would we be as inclined to stop it?
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(Hmm, why assume that only the US will take part in a deflection project?)
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Yes, You have to assemble things in orbit and boost fuel up there in order to do
the "Difficult things" . Nothing's easy. And you don't always know the results. I had to snap the lock off my Mother-in-Law's ammunition box. She had a $1.75 , her spice collection , and a box of Parodis cigars in there. ![]() |
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I remember seeing a calculation on the new series, "The Universe" on the Science Channel. I think they used the same data that 01101001 mentioned. So perhaps the US and Russia would be interested in preventing it from hitting them. But chances are that no one will divert Apophis, or any other possible impactor until it was clear that it would hit, and that might not be until a few years before that impact would occur. Therefore, by the time we would be interested in averting the threat we will have a good idea whether or not we actually want to.
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