It's been covered on the spoof

Peru Attacked by Pluto

Putin said he had an alibi.

I had thought the bugs did it actually.

We need Zim to go capture that brain bug.

Sgt. Zim will do the job!!! Nw, there's a good man.

Robert Heinlein ..'Starship Troopers' . A pity more people haven't read the book. A great insight into what it means to be a Veteran, and a Citizen and the value of the Soverign franchise.
Best regards, Dan

From the article.
I hope that sounded better in Spanish.

As Fazor also said, I suspect psychosomatic or some sort of mass hysteria.

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Mass hysteria is very appropriate when a chunk of space THAT big splats in your neighborhood, raining dirt clouds and dingleberries. It might even drag a few Hail Mary's outta me.

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It's a big universe out there...is it really unwinding, really burning out?

Is an impact scary?

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=322

That was an advert for a truck

I think it has been already discussed here. Any hue, according to Phill, it may have been a scud missile

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This is completely off topic, but I was thinking about Starship Troopers yesterday. I remember seeing a poster or something for the movie that showed a helmet pierced by a bug's (or whatever you call them) leg (or whatever you call it!) Does anybody else remember that? Maybe it was from the trailer or something.

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Ad Nauseum (if you excuse the pun)

Anyway, they were checking people for radiation? I didn't notice them saying anywere that there was radiation present.

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They need to save the water. Some of it could be from the comet itself and other stuff could be dissolved in it. It should be analyzed including looking for the ratio of heavy water to normal water. The tendency will be to just pump out the water and discard it.

Meteorite likely caused crater in Peru

But the BA has another theory:

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I think that's a fairly silly suggestion. There is no hard evidence that Peru actualkly has any Scuds, and, even they do have them, where are the missile fragments?

I still go for a large meteorite as the most likely explanation, followed by small phreato-magmatic event.

Jon

I vote space junk, as Devo's prescient lyrics from 1978 indicate:

"it's falling fast Peru too"...

Samples have been recovered indicating high iron content http://www.livinginperu.com/news-475...s-in-meteorite . I suggest it's now 99% certain this was a meteorite impact, the first crater known to have formed since Sikhote Alin in 1947.

Jon

Isn't Lake Titicaca a UFO base of operations.
Engine trouble perhaps?

So the largest known impact in 60 years is ignored and/or trivialised because it happened in Peru? Next time it should land in Idaho. Maybe then it would get the attention it deserves.

Jon

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No...as I posted on the BA's BLOG, I'd just like to see a picture (perhaps with people standing at the rim) so I could judge how big this "crater" is.

If that seems unreasonable, then simply look at all of the different pictures taken of the "crater" and tell me "how big it is". I know I can't, and that (to me) seems very odd.

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ToSeeks' link has an image show with at least one picture with somebody standing at the rim.

Although, for the most part, the wide angle view on all the others does make things quite misleading.

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Are there no green crystal around the impact site.At first I tought as a C&C fan that it must be a a tiberium meteor!That would alsob explain the sickness!Look how smart I am!

Are you talking about this picture??

If so, how can you tell that they are actually standing "at" the rim? From what I can see, they could be standing 20/30 feet beyond it, and the photographer just "lined it up" to make it appear that they are "on the rim".

I'll admit it "looks" like they are at the rim, however keeping in mind all of the different (and in my opinion, purposefully deceptive) pictures I have looked at, and adding to that the fact that this whole thing has "smelt wrong" from the beginning, and I just really want to know that what I'm "suppose" to be seeing is actually what is there.

In other words, I'm still waiting for a "definitive" picture...hopefully it will "show up" within the next few days.

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What makes you think the photos are purposely deceptive?

What smells wrong to you?

Jon

Some of the pictures make the "crater" look gigantic, while others make it look small. They seem to have a problem (and they shouldn't have) taking a decent picture of the thing. That in and of itself is causing me to think that there is a reason why no decent pictures have been taken. On the BA's BLOG, another poster mentioned the "hogzilla" incident....where forced persective was used to make a hog appear larger than it actually was. Right now, I have no way of knowing that this isn't what's being done with this crater.

Like I said...I'm waiting for a "decent" picture to settle this.

The crater just looks "wrong". I don't know how else to put it. I guess it's "look" could be because it came in awfully "slow", but...it just looks wrong.

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It would be good to get more decent photos for sure. from experience it is actually quite hard to get decent photos of small craters, It's possible that some these are cropped telephoto images, that might explain some the apparently forced perspectives.

Some good measurements would be desirable too. The crater has been variously quoted as 30 m across and 6 m deep and 17 m across and 5 metres deep. Both are reasonable in siuze and proportion for a small impact. the crater has a rim (best seen the in video, and both the rim and the crater are composed of brecciated material. This is what you would expect from an impact.

Another thing worth mentioning is the shallow groundwater, the water table is only 3-4 m below the surface, judging by the photos. With the a capillary fringe another 50 cm above that it means that much of the crater has been excavated out of wet, or at least moist material. There have have already been some modification of crater form through slumping.

The video shows shome white coatings on the ejecta. This is consistent in colour and distribution with impact glass. It would be nice if this could be confirmed. (or disproved)

Jon

With the crater filled with groundwater, how would José Isitsuka have obtained a sample of the meteorite? Would a small portion have been ejected during the impact, or did someone slub around at the bottom of the crater?

The first meteoric crater since 1947 is a remarkable event, if true; and it looks like it may well be. However the reports of illness associated with the fall are almost certainly hysteria.

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The meteorite will disintegrate into many small fragments which will be scattered across a wide area. This is what happened at Sikhote-Alin and also Wabar, Henbury, and other small impacts. You can buy fragments of these meteorites on the internet as a result.


Quite probably. If something that large fell near me I would probably be a bit neurotic as well!

However, if the groundwater was rich in arsenic, there is the possibility of arsenine being released. If the meteorite was a carbonaceous chondrite there is the possibility of hydrogen cyanide and hydrogen sulphide being produced. So I would not completely rule it out. reemember, we have not been this close to an impact before. As I recall it was some weeks after event that the first ground parties reached the Sikhote Alin site because of its remoteness, although it had been spotted from the air within a few hours.

Jon

For comparison, here are some photos of the Sikhote-Alin craters http://www.spacerocksinc.com/SIKHOTE...ALL_PAGE3.html

Maybe the arenic comes from gallium arsenide solar panels superheated by re-entry. or not.

I don't think anyone has direct evidence for arsenic. It is just one possible physical explanation for the reported illness. Andean waters are often high in arsenic because of leaching of hydrothermal deposits. But it is a hypothesis only. I suspect that the most likely cause of illness is the shock of having something like this come down in your back yard.

There is no evidence that this is a satellite reentry. No fragments of machined alloys mentioned. There are reports of chrondritic material and metallic iron. All evidence for a meteorite.

Jon