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Old 08-February-2008, 03:21 AM
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Meteorite disappears from party in Keys

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12:22 PM EST, February 7, 2008

SUMMERLAND KEY - A space rock is missing from the Florida Keys.

The Monroe County Sheriff's Office says a meteorite was stolen sometime between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning from a display at a gathering of amateur astronomers on West Summerland Key.

The meteorite is worth $10,000 and weighs about 99 grams. It's greenish-brown with crystals. One side of it has a cut.

The meteorite was on display at the Winter Star Party by a vendor from Pennsylvania. Authorities say the vendor had it in an unlocked case covered with a tarp.

The gathering is hosted by Miami's Southern Cross Astronomical Society.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/mia...0,387554.story
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Old 08-February-2008, 03:28 AM
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I was in the FL Keys last week to do some night fishing. It's a good place to do some sky watching. Something cool and mysterious about being out in the ocean at night. Got see alot more stars than I normally do. Especially since it was a crescent moon.
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Old 08-February-2008, 03:36 AM
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Bummer.

Mildly offensive title, even though I am assuming it is purely tongue-in-cheek.

I am of the opinion Astronomers as a class are amoung the most trustworthy of all people I associate with.
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I am of the opinion Astronomers as a class are amoung the most trustworthy of all people I associate with.
Apparently, you've never found a planet and then have the others redefine it out from under you. ;-)
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I was in the FL Keys last week to do some night fishing. It's a good place to do some sky watching. Something cool and mysterious about being out in the ocean at night. Got see alot more stars than I normally do. Especially since it was a crescent moon.
So, no alibi then?
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Apparently, you've never found a planet and then have the others redefine it out from under you. ;-)
AFAIK, nobody was deceptive about it. They came right out and said they wanted to redefine your planet -- whether you liked it or not.

Trustworthy, but bullies
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AFAIK, nobody was deceptive about it. They came right out and said they wanted to redefine your planet -- whether you liked it or not.

Trustworthy, but bullies
But four percent of a group of 10,000 claimed to speak on behalf of the whole group, did so in a very haphazard and controversial process, and now expects the world to take their definition as gospel truth. It's just another example of a small group behaving badly in a way that wrongly makes the whole profession look bad.
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How did figure out the $10K price tag?
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How did figure out the $10K price tag?
i'd wager that's how much insurance they had on it.
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-Some mystery I read where a meteor was stolen from a museum.
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The thing that surprises me the most is that this guy left this thing unsecured around a group of people who would drool over the opportunity to possess such a prize. For one, I wouldn't trust a group of <fill in the blank> around anything worth $10,000 and just leave it laying around. Second, a meteorite may be more valuable to an astronomy geek than the actual cash value (my precious) and so there is even more temptation. Combine the fact that the meteorite was worth $10,000 and you have a powerful incentive for individuals with weak morals to step over the line.

I'm not saying the guy deserved to be ripped off, but he shouldn't have been too surprised when it happened.
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The evidence here would indicate that an appropriate generalization might be that, if anything. Astronomers are passionate about their pursuit.

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The evidence here would indicate that an appropriate generalization might be that, if anything. Astronomers are passionate about their pursuit.
Astronomers are passionate about their pursuit...

to the point of being untrustworthy? Is this left to be implied or is it deliberately left off to deceive?
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astronomers are people. sometimes, they get together in groups.
and, amongst any group of people, there are the "bad seeds".
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Yeah, see... That's what I'm thinking.

"Astronomers" didn't steal it. One individual (most likely) did.
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Many scientists are 'collectors' of some sort, and a meteorite is certainly a collectable item.
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Astronomers are passionate about their pursuit...

to the point of being untrustworthy? Is this left to be implied or is it deliberately left off to deceive?
No deception intended. Passion can lead equally to great insights or sadly misguided actions. I don't think I have personally met an astronomer that I could describe as dishonest but to err is human.

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Wow, you guys haven't been to the semi-precious gem site in a while have you?

Only ten grand? For a 99 gram meteor with green mineral inclusions? You could cut that thing into four pieces and sell each one for that price.

(Oh, and never underestimate the power of certain recreational drugs. Astronomers are just as likely to become thievin' junkies as anybody else. Education doesn't protect you from that. You never saw that documentary of M.D's who were I.V. drug users?)
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My precious.......that floored me.
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I've left a few thousand dollars worth of astronomical equipment outside my tent at star parties numberous times and never had anything go missing. Granted my stuff is nowhere near "the best" but it's certainly not the worst you could have. I think a key to this story is that it occured in the Keys, hardly a secluded location. Every star party I've ever been to has been far away from populated towns, let alone tourist destinations. I bet that the person who took it wasn't there for the star party in the first place. Green with crystals you say? I think it's pretty obvious who the real culprit is - Lex Luthor lol.
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