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HubbleSite.org News: Astronomers Find One of the Youngest and Brightest Galaxies
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ESA: Spacetelescope.org: Hubble finds strong contender for galaxy distance record
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TooSeeked. Also, awesome.
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How many photons would we need to have collected to have enough of a spectrum to have statistically significant metallicity measurements? I bet we don't have 1% of the required photons from this object yet.
On the other hand, I would expect that the brightest parts of the galaxy are also the places with the most metal.
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It certainly makes for an interesting target for an experiment that could collect enough light to make spectra of metals. But you're right-- there is an unfortunate tendency for metals to show up pretty quickly, it's hard to really catch a "pristine" stellar population. Depending on when the first stars really started forming, that galaxy might actually "still" contain some of the first stars to ever form in our universe-- I think we'll be hearing more about it.
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A quick google brought up this for more info: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture02125.html |
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Actually, Ken, both articles specifically mention the contribution due to added effect of absorption in intervening clouds. I probably wasn't very specific in my initial post regarding the Ly alpha forest being a secondary effect to the lyman break. In any case, there is no spectra yet to measure metallicity.
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You're right on the metallicity issue, it's clear we're a long way from that. But the Lyman alpha forest can't matter here (you are also right that the second article does explicitly reference Lyman lines in aspect #3). The Lyman alpha forest only exists in the range between the vacuum energy of the Lyman continuum limit and where the light source redshifts that limit. If the redshift is more than a z of 1 + 1215/912 = 2.3, there is no Lyman alpha forest from a light source with a strong Lyman break.
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No one needs to fix that relative to my remarks-- quasars aren't "sources with a strong Lyman break". I mentioned that in the final sentence, though it needs to be made clear that's what I meant. Quasar light is not self-absorbed by neutral hydrogen the way a Lyman break galaxy's is, presumably because the geometry of the emission due to the powerful central engine is much different from emission by young stars.
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That's my sense of what "Lyman break" means, but I'm sure there can be intermediate situations and you were not wrong to mention Lyman lines. I was just trying to get my head around these distant objects and what kind of spectroscopy is actually possible with them. Apparently about all they have to go on is how "full" is the spectral bin that contains the Lyman break, so that's not a heck of a lot but you gotta make do.
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Here is the paper on arxiv:
paper Discovery of a Very Bright Strongly-Lensed Galaxy Candidate at z ~ 7.6 Authors: L. D. Bradley, R. J. Bouwens, H. C. Ford, G. D. Illingworth, M. J. Jee, N. Benitez, T. J. Broadhurst, M. Franx, B. L. Frye, L. Infante, V. Motta, P. Rosati, R. L. White, W. Zheng (Submitted on 18 Feb 2008) Abstract: Using HST and Spitzer IRAC imaging, we report the discovery of a very bright strongly-lensed Lyman break galaxy (LBG) candidate at z~7.6 in the field of the massive galaxy cluster Abell 1689. The galaxy candidate, which we refer to as A1689-zD1, shows a strong z-J break of at least 2.2 magnitudes and is completely undetected (<1 sigma) in HST/ACS g, r, i, and z data. These properties, combined with the very blue J-H and H-[4.5] colors, are exactly the properties of an z~7.6 LBG and can only be reasonably fit by a star-forming galaxy at z=7.6 +/- 0.4. Attempts to reproduce these properties with a model galaxy at z<4 yield particularly poor fits. A1689-zD1 has an observed (lensed) magnitude of 25.3 AB (8 sigma) in the NICMOS J band and is ~1.2 magnitudes brighter than the brightest-known z-dropout galaxy. When corrected for the cluster magnification of 9.3 at z~7.6, the candidate has an intrinsic magnitude of J=27.7 AB, or about an 0.3 L* galaxy at z~7.6. The source plane deprojection shows that the star formation is occurring in compact knots of size ~<300 pc. The best-fit stellar population synthesis models yield a median redshift of 7.6, stellar masses (1.6-3.9) x 10^9 M_sun, stellar ages 45-320 Myr, star-formation rates ~<7.6 M_sun/yr, and low reddening with A_V<0.3. These properties are generally similar to those of LBGs found at z~5-6. The inferred stellar ages suggest a formation redshift of z~8-10 (t~<0.63 Gyr). A1689-zD1 is the brightest observed, highly reliable z>7.0 galaxy candidate found to date. |
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