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Old 02-May-2008, 08:40 PM
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Thumbs down The Cassiopeia Project

I recently received this e-mail from the coordinator of space programs for teachers in Pennsylvania. It told about this free web site with free videos for teachers on science to download and I was wondering if it is legitimate or not? it is called "The Cassiopeia Project" and the link can be found at http://www.cassiopeiaproject.com/ The website claims that "No science teacher left behind." but with a claim that the site is supported by a physicist who's name is not given, I wonder how good it is. After seeing the two page glossy ads in Astronomy, Sky & Telescope, Smithsonian, Discover and Scientific American for the "Null Physics" textbook. I am wondering if there is big money into promoting "bad science"? Am I just being biased about the web site coming from Mobile, AL? Surely there is good science coming from the South, or am I prejudiced? Anyone have any answers or comments? I would love to have some discussion on this. Is this a plot to sneak bad science into the classroom or am I just paranoid?
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Out of all the constellations, why would anybody choose the one named after a vain queen who tried to sacrifice her kid to a sea monster as the name for their project??
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I am wondering if there is big money into promoting "bad science"?
Big money? Probably not. Some money in promoting bad science? Sure.

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Am I just being biased about the web site coming from Mobile, AL?
I believe it's possible. What's wrong with something that comes from Mobile and Alabama?

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Surely there is good science coming from the South, or am I prejudiced?
Surely there is. Or, were you being ironic?

If your belief is that no good science can come from the southern US, you're probably prejudiced.

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Is this a plot to sneak bad science into the classroom or am I just paranoid?
Is it bad science? I didn't view the materials. The goals stated seem OK, and the apparent source, MudBrick Media seems harmless enough at a quick look.

What is making you skeptical about it, besides its being from Alabama? Skeptical is good, but I don't have any alarm bells going off after a very superficial glance.
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Nobody gives anything to teachers for free and they are highly promoting this site saying it is supported by a physicist, but not giving his name and some of the content in the videos seem a bit veiled. Maybe I am leery in that there are lots of people with agendas trying to push their thoughts on science teachers lately. I need to know more information. And no, the fact that they are from the south is not the reason I am concerned. I am just seeing folks with big money from corporations with agendas trying to push their ideas onto science teachers. In West Virginia it is coal companies offering to send free materials on mountain top removal and seeing stuff from them written into suggested curriculum guides. Stuff like that.
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Old 03-May-2008, 02:28 AM
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Nobody gives anything to teachers for free and they are highly promoting this site saying it is supported by a physicist, but not giving his name and some of the content in the videos seem a bit veiled.
This would make me suspicious too.
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Maybe I am leery in that there are lots of people with agendas trying to push their thoughts on science teachers lately. I need to know more information. And no, the fact that they are from the south is not the reason I am concerned. I am just seeing folks with big money from corporations with agendas trying to push their ideas onto science teachers. In West Virginia it is coal companies offering to send free materials on mountain top removal and seeing stuff from them written into suggested curriculum guides. Stuff like that.
That stuff isn't always bad, though. We all have our own agenda.
As long as their agenda doesn't conflict with the science or morality in any way- there should be no problem.

I looked over that website, but didn't find much that could tell me how accurate their information is...
Tried to view clips of their videos- but they require quicktime. Quicktime is nothing more than a mislabeled virus in my opinion and I'll have nothing to do with it so I couldn't assess the videos...

Even so, going over the terms and conditions and website- I can't say I have found much cause for concern myself... Though I do not blame you in the least for checking and rechecking!

ETA: If feeling particularly motivated later- I may take one for the team and download a Quicktime Emulator and check out the videos.
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I watched a several-minute segment about DNA, figuring that would be a prime place to promote non-science. I'm no biologist, but I didn't see any problems with the science content. It described DNA, said it all started a few billion years ago, before even cellular packaging came along, described how it reproduces and maintains itself and how it gets modified through the ages -- standard scientific introduction.

That's just one sample, but I still haven't seen a goblin, even in the sort of place they'd tend to hang out. So far so good.

I did a web search. I don't see much discussion of the materials pro or con. Is it extremely new? The MudBrick producer site seems to have been established a few years ago, and not maintained. CassiopeiaProject appears more current.

Anyone care to check the cosmology/particle stuff for "intelligent design" or other woowooisms?
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I looked the DNA clip and the evolution one. They are definitely not creationists. I would have done some things differently, but there was nothing objectionable in the clips I saw.

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