What is it? THE BLACK HOLE.
I was wondering that the mass cant just dissapear into the black hole with all its energy to nowhere. It has to goes somewhere does it? Then my theory is that it converts ordinary mass (Baryonic mass) into dark matter (non baryonic mass). Thats why once the mass goes into the black hole, we cant detect it again because it has been converted.
The black hole since it is black, it paints the matter that goes into it also making it black and undetectable. kinda funny.

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<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>The</span><span style='color:black'> Black Hole</span><span style='color:red'> and </span> <span style='color:white'>White Hole </span><span style='color:red'>are best friends!</span></span>

We are trapped in space forever!

I think this belongs into the ATM section...

And for a short answer, no. At least in standard theories, dark matter is (you are correct in this) non-baryonic matter which intereacts only gravitationally with other matter.

But you make it sound like the black hole can only exert gravitational influence on its surroundings if it is made of some kind of non-baryonic dark matter. While it IS correct that a black hole is a baryonic-to-non-baryonic matter converter (there's nothing baryonic about a black hole anymore, stuff like baryon and lepton numbers disappear), the event horizon prevents us from getting any information out of a hole. And it still has a gravity well (a veeeeery deep one...) because static fields, like gravity or an electric field, penetrate the event horizon. It's the only stuff that can.

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So my reply was not serious enough, eh? *leaves in a huff*

No, actually, maybe there are people in the ATM forum who WOULD be willing to debate this with some form of seriousness...

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White hole gets bonsack battery bucks for originality

Let's assign another property to dark matter: It is attractive to baryonic matter, but repulsive to dark matter, therefore it hangs on to the edges of galaxies, and yes, there is nothing wrong with baryonic matter being compressed into dark matter at some critical density and repulsing out of the galactic core; accelerating twisting jets of baryons in its wake as it escapes

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It's a big universe out there...is it really unwinding, really burning out?

Hummmmmm...

So Einstein was completely disconnected from Astronomy.


It is the thing that Einstein was MOST correct about... IF IF IF, you take the Sci-Fi out and do 'real' science!!!

BUT, Einstein did NOT know about SMBH's for what Don Correctly described as...While it IS correct that a black hole is a baryonic-to-non-baryonic matter converter (there's nothing baryonic about a black hole anymore, stuff like baryon and lepton numbers disappear), Which is exactly what White Hole expressed in his OP.

Then the trick is to understand that the SMBH's are the only Black Holes 'powerful enough' to "Tunnel Through" to another Universe, to 'spew/release' the Non-baryonic Dark Matter Neutrinos as 'space' for the other universe, Into the Huge Voids between the galaxy clusters.

Those Neutrinos Carry the CMB lowest energy level for that universe and the whole universe is Neutrinos Traveling at "c" in all every direction. Solves the 10^122 OOM theorized energy VS the "Observed Energy" problem, as well as the 'temerature communication across the visible universe' problem...

SO, SMBH's make the whole universe, which is traveling at "c" in all directions.

SO, all Matter is 'slowing down' from it's initial "c" velocity.

This maintains mainstreams definition of Black holes, at least as far as the definiton at the event horizon goes, where once anything, including light, goes below the event horizon, it can never come back up through that event horizon, into our universe...

Sorry Jerry, and QSSC er's ...BUT, here's the good news...New Galaxies are being created when the SMBH's in our universe are created as Gamma Ray Events ETA: These are the "Real" Mini Bangs, creating the electrons/protons for each New Galaxy/Dwarf Galaxy.

Now, This is the ONLY solution that actually works IF Our Universe is working as an "Open System", so move this to ATM, if you must, so mainstream won't believe me because "Nothing Can Go "Through" SMBH's AND so ALL of the Alternative people won't believe it because they either don't believe in black holes at all (ETA: ECO/MECO), OR they think that the Event Horizon works like a white hole, spewing baryonic matter (ETA: QSSC's "Two singular-like objects), OR

ETA: Arps "Quasar Ejections" as New Galaxies being created.

Sorry for leaving this one out!

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I can has some math? Because I'm not sure you understand just how nonsensical that is, given current observations and knowledge...

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I know Huh...When I say that the collapse of a SMBH is NOT caused by the collapse of Baryonic Matter, In an "Open System", there is no maths that have been developed to handle that.

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Well, feel free to begin developing it!

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- Dark Tranquillity, The Wonders At Your Feet

Me thinks that you do not understand the full ramifications of what post # 6 really encompasses

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And after looking at the title, I was wondering if they would be available at Toshi Station. [/humor]

More seriously, is this proposed process related to Hawking Radiation?

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Well Ara, I watch a lot of Sci-Fi but I am not sure which one has Toshi Station in it. BUT, having 'spaceships' close to or inside Black Hole event horizons, OR going through "Ring Singularities", is like trying to figure out what is happening on the Sun, by imagining an Ant walking across it's surface!!!

I love all Sci-Fi, BUT there has to be some kind of common sense/"Domains of Applicability" for doing 'science'!

The OP did not take it any farther than saying that a Black Hole is a matter to non-baryonic matter converter.

I am sticking with the mainstream definition, that Nothing can come back up through the Event Horizon, and out into our Universe, where our galaxies exist.

BUT, mainstream has developed ALL of their definitions/Laws for a Closed System, so IF Our Universe is working as an Open System : IE "Space" is coming 'straight through' the "Ring Singularities" of SMBH's, THEN that changes things dramatically.

I have developed this, BUT when it goes into ATM, they just demand the Maths and it's over...they MUST be right.

So, I am not sure how far I can actually go here...

The short answer is...NO.

What is "Coming Through" :IE "Space", eliminates the need for "Virtual Particles" anywhere in space (They aren't "Real"), so the SMBH's aren't getting "Constipated", Energy is NOT conserved, and black holes last as long as they have an Accretion Disc to maintain their stability.

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I added some ETA's to Post #6 to be more thorough and inclusive.

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