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Old 29-November-2008, 03:02 PM
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i was watching an interview with micho kaku (who wrote physics of the impossible wich is one of my favorite books) talking about "city buster" and "planet buster" asteroids and while im not really worried (big surprise i know) i was wondering how far ahead we can predict these deadly asteroids cause getting hit on the head with a rock the size of an apartment building isnt exactly high on my list of ways to die (its down there with "ebola virus" and "zombie outbreak")

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i was watching an interview with micho kaku (who wrote physics of the impossible wich is one of my favorite books) talking about "city buster" and "planet buster" asteroids and while im not really worried (big surprise i know) i was wondering how far ahead we can predict these deadly asteroids cause getting hit on the head with a rock the size of an apartment building isnt exactly high on my list of ways to die (its down there with "ebola virus" and "zombie outbreak")
Not at all with any certainty.
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What size? 100 meter? Big apartment building?

That might only come with days notice -- but in days you can get far enough away. (And, they are beginning to catalog those in large numbers.)

A recent example of a very much tinier asteroid discovered before it arrived is noted in topics Asteroid Impact Tonight!!! and Near certain hit at Oct 07 0246 UTC!. It was so small, only a few meters, it only came with hours of warning. Still it was enough warning to provide escape, had it even been necessary. That's a cutting edge capability, and I expect it will be a good many years before everything so minuscule can be spotted in advance.

Larger, 1-kilometer-diameter asteroids are well on their way to being totally cataloged and predictable for decades out.

NASA JPL NEO Program Statistics

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NASA's search program designed to discover 90% of the NEO population (1 km in diameter or larger) within 10 years is under way.
You can see for large objects the discovery rate is diminishing. It's getting harder to find new ones. Those bigger ones will come with warnings from months to years, again time to get away -- except for the extraordinarily rare, extremely large, so-large-we'd-already-know-about-it asteroid for which there was no safe distance on Earth, that would require some deflection, many, many decades or centuries from now, when we'll be able to do so easily.

Other rocks are out there: comets. Coming from farther reaches, they are harder to catalog in advance. Rarer, too.

So, as usual, why don't you worry about something that can really give you a bad day, such as the much more common: bad diet, not wearing seat belts, not getting enough exercise? Stop dying over and over in your fantasies. Worry about the important stuff. Please.

NASA JPL Near Earth Object (NEO) Program has stuff to read:

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Introduction & Overview
NEO Groups
Near-Earth Objects And Life On Earth
Target Earth
Near-Earth Objects As Future Resources
Target Earth

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With an average interval of about 100 years, rocky or iron asteroids larger than about 50 meters would be expected to reach the Earth's surface and cause local disasters or produce the tidal waves that can inundate low lying coastal areas. On an average of every few hundred thousand years or so, asteroids larger than a kilometer could cause global disasters.
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No one should be overly concerned about an Earth impact of an asteroid or comet. The threat to any one person from auto accidents, disease, other natural disasters and a variety of other problems is much higher than the threat from NEOs. Over long periods of time, however, the chances of the Earth being impacted are not negligible so that some form of NEO insurance is warranted. At the moment, our best insurance rests with the NEO scientists and their efforts to first find these objects and then track their motions into the future. We need to first find them, then keep an eye on them.
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i was watching an interview with micho kaku (who wrote physics of the impossible wich is one of my favorite books) talking about "city buster" and "planet buster" asteroids and while im not really worried (big surprise i know) i was wondering how far ahead we can predict these deadly asteroids cause getting hit on the head with a rock the size of an apartment building isnt exactly high on my list of ways to die (its down there with "ebola virus" and "zombie outbreak")
Hmm. I'm unsure about whether to give you these links...

Call for global asteroid spotting network

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Some 6,000 cosmic objects circulating around the planet are currently known to experts in the field, the Association of Space Explorers (ASE) told a press conference at the UN headquarters in Vienna, where it presented its report "Asteroid Threats: A Call for Global Response."


And of these, up to 1,000 had a diameter of 150 kilometres (93 miles) or more, meaning they could cause major damage to the Earth's surface, prompting fires, tsunamis and ensuing disasters like famine, it said.


The organisation includes some 320 members from 34 countries, all of whom have already been in space.


Although it should be possible to predict a collision up to 15 years before it occurs, the technology needed to divert an incoming asteroid has yet to be developed and this will require international cooperation, they said.
The Association of Space Explorers website contains the full report, plus lots of other terrifying links and info. ASE/NEO
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California Literary Review: Dr. Philip Plait, The Bad Astronomer, on What If a Large Asteroid Was Heading for Earth?

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Do we know what he odds are of an asteroid hitting earth – one that is capable of doing serious damage to the planet?

Right now the chances are really low. Your personal odds of dying in an asteroid impact over your lifetime are about 1 in 700,000 – you’re just about as likely to die in an amusement park accident. And we know there are no dinosaur-killers out there liable to hit in the next few centuries at least.
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How much warning would we have?

In general we’d have years of warning. An asteroid big enough to do global damage would be big enough and bright enough to spot a long time in advance. [...] And a small asteroid, one say 200 yards across (enough to take out a city but not the planet) would be tough to spot until just before it hit us… and we might never notice it before impact. We wouldn’t have any warning at all, except the flash of light in the sky as it came in.
(Cited in BA Blog: What if a large asteroid were on its way in?)
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There remains the problem of objects at high velocity whose path takes them near the Sun, as well as comets, and as such are most difficult to detect. Their reflected light is masked by the brilliance of the Sun.
These are trouble.
As such, there is little you can do about it. I don't lose any sleep
concerning near earth objects.
Change the things you can.
Understand the things you cannot.
And learn to know the difference.


Best regards, Dan
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