Even if this did work at the equator, local gravity differences would cause the line going around the world to we wiggly, i think.

Is that some sort of UTI?

I just did the bathtub test. The plug is built-in. To drain the tub, I have to turn it counter-clockwise. The water drained counter-clockwise, too.

Ah ha! (Sorry it took this long to see your comment.)

Does anyone remember the BA's book section discussing the fraud at the equator? AS he changes hemispheres, he turns the direction needed to initiate the desired rotation direction in the water.

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of course if you rotate the water one way then that is the way it will spin when it drains but that doesn't mean that if the water is perfectly still before it drains that it won't spin anti-clockwise in the northen hemisphere.....

True, but why. The direction is caused by some force. It is likely due to one, or more, of the following...

1) The water has a net rotation direction prior to draining.
2) The drain plug removal forces a rotation direction.
3) The drain itself creates a rotation due to the non-perfect plumbing.

I can't think of anything else. I am intentionally leaving out the differential spin rate due to Earth's rotation and any electromagnetic possibilites.

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"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.

Those sound pretty good. I'd also add a lack of symmetry in the bathtub itself that might provide a preferential direction as the water drains.

In the science museum in London there is a 30ft(guess) pendulum suspend from a high ceiling, it is free to swing anyway it wants but as the day goes by its swing changes direction, due to the rotation of the Earth(this is the point of the demonstration). So if a small weight can keep its momentum relative to the Earth's revolution then why couldn't the water in a bucket? The amount of energy in the water in a bucket treating it like a fly wheel is 0.0000....1 (I've for forgotten how many zeros) joules but it may be enough to tip the balance in a still bucket of water.
Once the water is spiraling the actual energy for the whirl pool comes from the falling of the water through the hole...

I calculate that water in a sink has 0.0000000046 joules of water due to the rotation of the Earth and if that was concentrated into 1 cubic centimeter of water, then that cubic centimeter could travel at 1.5mm a second. Maybe enough to get the whirlpool show on the road. I'm not sure about the mechanism for turning the gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy(as the water falls through the hole) but this would have to be considered even when pre-swirling the water anyway.

4) Asymmetric bathtub.

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Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.

Is the pendulum in a vacuum? It is very difficult to make them work right due to air currents, swivel friction, etc. I know of a 30 or 40 footer that was abandoned.

Sounds right. It should take little to get one started, but once started it is self-supporting if it doesn't roam around.

Is the 1.5mm/sec the differential rate from one end of the tub to the other? In the area near the drain, I would expect less of a differential rate calculation.

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Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.

No, the 1.5mm/sec is just if the energy was concentrated into 1 cubic centimeter of water(it's quite a small amount of energy). But the actual volume of the water involved in the whirlpool is probably quite small, just a few mm in from the surface(at the start), I would have thought.
If (for example) one centimeter of water has gone down the plughole then all that angular momentum in that top layer will have had to have gone somewhere.

ps. the pendulum(I just googled it and found that it is called a Faucult pendulum) in London is just in the open air IIRC.

My water drains down.

CJSF

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Across a 15cm diameter at the drain, I get about 2 mm per minute as the differential rate of rotation around the center of the earth. The idea the Coriolis effect causes drain rotation seems to...uh...go "down the drain".

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Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.

Surely, all things being equal, even a small rotation in a round container will lead to a whirlpool in the same direction, although not at or near the equator, that is just a con(although I used to believe it).

I did this experiment with a sink at work...

I found that it drained in whichever way I stirred the water; I had to do that to overcome the swirling motion caused by the asymmetric position of the tap relative to the sink's c.o.g. At no point did it reverse so as to conform to the mythology!

there is noway that the initial energy of the system could overcome the active swirling of the water, that would put far to much artificial energy into the system.

Active swirling doesn't disprove the phenomenon. You have to perform the experiment with still water in a round bucket with a hole in the middle. And not at the equator, where the water is revolving perpendicular to the plane of any resulting whirlpool. After all when they dropped objects of the tower of Pisa they didn't use a hammer and a feather.

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