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Good evening everybody. The Doctor is in.
So, how is it a boast of speed when it's a distance that's being used as the boast? If the asteroid field is sparse, why is there a danger of zipping and zagging into them? Speed is not required to avoid the black holes. One has to assume that the ship isn't bound to them to begin with, so it should be able to slingshot around the holes without any problems. You should be able to get as close to the event horizon as your hull strength, or assuming the ship isn't somehow capable of counteracting the gravity inside the ship for pilot comfort your body, can handle. And just how dense is this black hole field? How much farther do most pilots usually travel? 1 parsec is 3.26 light years. Shaving even a single parsec off of travel time would mean people are avoiding these objects by lightyears, when realistically anyone should be able to get within a few AUs of each body without feeling any adverse effects. I also see no reason for any engines to be straining in protest. Follow the proper course, and the engines wouldn't need to be on at all. That statement seems to be making an analogy between a black hole and a whirlpool or tornado or something. That in and of itself is bad astronomy -- black holes don't suck.
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I would like to postulate a solution to the "Kessel Run" error that fits within the context of the original film and does not require any other book or film to corroborate.
The premise is this: Since the ships that travel FTL are said to be traveling in Hyperspace, I submit that "hyperspace" is the SW equivalent of "Wormhole" and that all wormholes are curved. Imagine then that a ship that goes FTL is actually generating its own wormhole whose curvature is a function of the speed of the object passing through it (a large multiple of c). Therefore Han's claim of performing the run in less than 12 parsecs is actually a measurement of speed. It refers to the length of the wormhole generated. A slower ship might take 13 parsecs or more to travel the "run". A faster ship, if there was one, might do it in 11 parsecs. This would also explain why they never have battles in hyperspace. Remember, Space is curved. Why shouldn't hyperspace be curved as well?
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I cant remember which book i read this in but i definently heard it somewhere.
First of all a little info on how hyperspace jumps are made. Ships can only travel along very specific hyperspace routes in order to avoid mass field objects (stars, black holes, ect.) which will cause a ship to revert to real space and most likely destroy it in the process. However, ships with faster hyperdrives can cut closer routes through these mass fields because of their greater speeds. Now the Kessel Run is made, as stated previously, buy piloting along the maw. The issue of a parsec being a measure of distance is explained by the fact that only a ship with an incredibly fast hyperdrive (The Millenium Falcon) can cut such a short route so close to the maw, which being four black holes is a huge mass field, without being destroyed. I dont know of any other distances for the kessel run but apparently 12 parsecs is very short |
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George Lucas also said the following in the DVD extras: - "in the Star Wars universe, traveling through hyperspace requires careful navigation to avoid stars, planets, asteroids, and other obstacles, and that since no long-distance journey can be made in a straight line, the "fastest" ship is the one that can plot the "most direct course", thereby traveling the least distance." |
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Han Solo was of course very well aware that it's a good idea, when dealing with spacetime, to measure space and time in the same units, with the speed of light as the conversion factor.
He was saying that the Millennium Falcon had made the Kessel run in less than 40 years. (It was a long journey.) Grant Hutchison |
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It is my personal policy that a) Lucas made an elementary astrophysics mistake in scripting that line of dialog the way he did; and b) any excuse--however specious--that redeems that line of dialogue and permits it to be interpreted--however tenuously--as a legitimate and impressive boast, is infinitely superior to the position that line of dialogue is irrevocably wrong as delivered in the movie.
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Maybe everybody in that time and place says "parsecs" when they really mean "parsecs per standard day" or something like that. (That's assuming that they'd be speaking English so far away and long ago.) If a cop tells me that I was going sixteen miles over the speed limit, I'm not going to say "You're using a unit of distance as if it were a unit of time . . . you dummy!"
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Okay, confession time: I dated Han Solo.
He's prone to exaggeration and hyperbole. Handsome guy and a good kisser, but you've got to take 48% of anything Han says with the proverbial grain of salt. He talks and talks; likes to hear himself talk. Chewie frequently gets fed up, dons ear phones and listens to music to drown him out. Why did we break up? I was abducted by a Norlo. Han's response? "Better her than me!" I found that out after being rescued (no one you know). Han wanted to reunite but no way. And thus ends my story. If you don't believe me, ask Chewie. He'll roar you.
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