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And later in the article, our own BA gets quoted:

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[Nitpick]Well, except a hypernova, technically, but we'd see that coming. And there's no sign from the only nearby star that looks like a cadidate for one.[/Nitpick]

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Counternitpick:

He said distant stars, not nearby ones.

Okay, am I the only one who thinks that statement is just WRONG? As in should not exist totally and completely WRONG?

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We should be teaching stoicism in elementary schools? On the other hand, I remember going onto the playground at recess in 4th grade and proclaiming, "today is a good day to die".

I wonder if he pres and other world leaders will have to go on TV to calm people down in 3 years.

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No, I mean a 4th grader thinking they're going to die before they get much older no matter what they do is just WRONG.

I liked 4th grade. I read Harry Potter and drew cartoons about secret agents and ran around with my friends playing Sailor Moon. I was happy. It was simple, it was good. To imagine myself or any of my friends at that age consumed by apocalyptic dread is awful.

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well, growing up in the 70s and 80s there was always the third world nuclear war to look forward to.

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Brought to you by the Fear Monger's Shop .... in the dales, Teasedale,
Roy n Dale, Beer and Dale, Lonsdale, Hopedale, Mondale and all the other
shopping centers.

On the other hand however, it's always nice to see a bit of Woo with a built in expiration date.

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Random thought. I fear that once 2012 has passed, we may switch from disproving that the 2012 apocalypse will happen, to disproving that it has happened.

"They tell us that Dec 21, 2012 has already passed so it's impossible for us all to die then. But it's actually not even 1950. The Government has changed all the calenders to make it look like the threat has gone away. Nibiru never just conveniently goes away....."

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And not a one of them remembers May 5, 2000.

That statement is mind-numbingly stupid.

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Or that date in 1997/99 that Ed Dames predicted the world would end because of Hale-Bopp or something or other.

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Nibiru was supposed to have come around in 2003. Ended with folks being arrested after selling all of their stuff and trying to set up a village in a national park.

Hey, it worked for the 7th Day Adventists!

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Astronomical Society of the Pacific: Doomsday 2012, the Planet Nibiru, and Cosmophobia (PDF)

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And with so many appearances of the string 2012, this topic is bound to attract worried searchers, so here's the list.

Here are some articles about the many aspects of the year 2012 predictions, and a long, long list of some BAUT Forum topics that have addressed the topic:

• Universe Today: No Doomsday in 2012
• Bad Astronomy Blog: 2012, the year nothing will happen
• Universe Today: 2012: No Planet X
• Universe Today: 2012: Planet X is not Nibiru
• Universe Today: 2012: No Killer Solar Flare
• Universe Today: 2012: No Geomagnetic Reversal
• Universe Today: 2012: No Comet
• Universe Today: Another Voice Against 2012 Mania
• Universe Today: 2012: Combat the Nonsense
• Astronomical Society of the Pacific: Doomsday 2012, the Planet Nibiru, and Cosmophobia (PDF)
• NASA FAQ: 2012: Beginning of the End or Why the World Won't End?

1. 2003 no, 2012 si
2. 2012
3. End of Mayan Calendar
4. Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
5. 2012 alignment question
6. about the Mayan 2012 item
7. 2012 Debunking?
8. Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
9. 2012 asteroid?
10. We don't have to worry about 2012!
11. More on 2012 from India Daily
12. 2012 Completion of conspiracy?
13. Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
14. crop circles, Planet X and 2012
15. Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
16. According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
17. More 2012 Nonsense
18. NEO 2012?
19. Dangerous NEO in 2012?
20. Christmas 2012
21. 2012 mayan calender end of world
22. Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
23. New 2012 threat?
24. 2012 look at this thing on the sun
25. Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
26. Pole shift idea origins
27. Dec 20 2012
28. 2012 Stuff
29. No reply previous question
30. Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
31. Date: December 21st 2012
32. Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
33. 2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
34. So what will we see in 2012?
35. Galactic Tsunami?
36. Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
37. Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
38. 2012?
39. Any truth to this?
40. How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
41. the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
42. Planet X Official Advertisement
43. What year are we in
44. Quick question about the sun
45. Galactic Alignment
46. Books of 2012! -
47. 2007 = 2012
48. Return of Planet X By Rand
49. Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
50. Toutatis 4179: 2012?
51. Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
52. Solar Storms
53. A real prediction!
54. NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER
55. 2012 Galactic Alignment
56. Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~
57. New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!!
58. this may be a silly question but...
59. Just to know if this is true
60. Just Wondering...
61. Planet X/Nibiru, is it real?
62. Youv heard this a million times.
63. Nibaru or Planet X
64. Mayan calendar
65. 2012 Article?
66. can i say something please on planet x
67. Nibiru
68. The growing earth.... :P
69. Our Solar System's Eclipse of the Galactic Plane on Dec 21, 2012?
70. Something scaring the hell out of me....
71. It's Only the end of the World AGAIN!!! (Woo Woo Alert)
72. 2021 Doomsday
73. is it just me or is the milky way brighter..?
74. Polar Shift in 2012?
75. I would like to ask about Nubiru stuff...
76. Bit behind the times, my appologies...
77. the "pole shift thing"
78. All the Truth about 2012
79. Confused about 2012 (yes, another one!)
80. Another paranoia mind due to 2012
81. novelty theory
82. Possibility of Pole Shift
83. 2012 Vectors
84. Nibiru Question
85. Odd things floating on google sky
86. 2012 end of the world?
87. 2012 and Solar Storms?
88. Nibiru
89. Sun polar shift weirdness.
90. Question? [2012]
91. December 21st 2012
92. 2012 is giving me a Headache
93. UN Agenda 21 and the coming pole reversal scare
94. Space storm alert: 90 seconds from catastrophe
95. Is there even something to this?
96. We're not the only ones fighting 2012 nonsense

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Did I miss the First and Second Nuclear Wars?
Who won?

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I'm not quite sure what 4th grade is, but I'm pretty sure I was younger than that when I thought we were all going to die when the whole Bay of Pigs thing kicked off.

In the US, fourth grade is the school year that you start when you're about 10. You start kindergarten at around 5, then grades 1 through 12 (usually), then college (sometimes).

Fred

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I was terrified of nuclear war when I was a child--probably one of the youngest people to be so. That still doesn't make it right.

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Heh, I still remember that morning I woke up in high school to hearing then-President Ronald Reagan say, "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to announced that I have just signed into law legislation making Russia illegal. We begin bombing in 5 minutes." I kept waiting for the air raid sirens while I hid under the covers (later, I realized that I'd been "had" and reluctantly got ready for school).

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Yes... remember" Duck and cover ! " ? Yes, we used to do that for drill.
Makes for nice dreams.

Dan

Should I feel glad that I was born in the 90s and got nine years of relative peace or sad because then I had to watch it all go downhill?

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Rovers forever! - ToSeek

I remember, from the mid 60's on, the constant stream of information about how many nukes "We" (United States) had, vs, "Them",(USSR). A kid has no idea whether to be pleased that we had more of one type weapon, or terrified that we had less of another.

For decades we were constantly told how the Doomsday Clock, (is that what it was called?) was steadily moving toward midnight, at which point it was all over except for the radiation resistant cockroaches. After long enough, you just kind of forget about how serious it is, and go on living life.

TJ

LOL Lone Wolf! I think he meant the first two "World Wars".

Eric

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The funny thing is the "Doomsday Clock" is still ticking so to speak and the US and Russia both still have nuclear arsenals large enough to destroy the world several times over. It's just no one ever thinks about it anymore.

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No, you're not, KaiYeves. But let's face it, most people throughout the ages have been guided by fear, ignorance and superstition. Despite all of our wonderful science and technology today, most people are still living in the Dark Ages. What are you going to do?

Eric

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We had an air raid drill when I was in seventh grade, I think. Which would have made it, what, 1990 or so. This consisted of the whole school sitting in the hallway demanding to know what the point of all this was, including the teachers.

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