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http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060610.html
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It does look more like city light pollution than sunset afterglow
![]() However, Honolulu is on Oahu and Haleakala is on Maui, 120 miles away to the southeast. Maui has no cities large enough to produce that kind of light pollution. At least I think I have my Hawaii geography correct ![]() |
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I didn't read the text. You're right. It does say Honolulu.
But at 10,000 feet elevation, this observatory would have a horizon 100 miles away. So Honolulu, 120 miles distant, is below the horizon, seriously diminishing its light pollution. But I think I can see it on the horizon, a little to the right of the Moon's azimuth. It's directly above the blurry dome that was probably moving during this long-exposure picture. Its a reddish glow, and spans about 10% of the horizon. But what I was talking about is the glow that exists across the entire horizon. The curved horizon suggests that this is a wide-angle photo. This glow is way too strong and too spread out to be produced by distant Honolulu. I tried setting up this sky in Stellarium and when I advanced time to get the same stars on the horizon as in the photo, it was just moments after Stellarium's sky became pitch black, and the last afterglow of sunset disappeared. But Stellarium gives me a 0 degree horizon, and at 10,000 feet, your horizon will be below 0 degrees altitude, perhaps showing you some lingering sunset glow. But it is a bit strange that the sunset afterglow would be below Honolulu's glow. So this photo-spanning glow is probably reflected moonlight off the white cloud tops, rather than sunset afterglow as I had suggested. Just my guess ... |
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Your right. I got a littly sloppy. I use the formula Horizon in miles = 1.17 * sqr (height in feet) which gives 117 miles, in rough agreement with your figure. A light on top of a 200 ft hotel would add an additional 1.17 * sqr(200) = 16.5 miles to the range 132.5 (a little more with your formula). And a more careful measurement of the distance shows it to be 110 miles, not 120.
So I guess Honolulu's lights would be directly visible. |
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*The square of the distance (straight line, not along surface, but that's close) to the tangent is equal to the height times (twice the radius plus the height, but the height is negligble in this sum) |
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The photographer who took the June 10 APOD answered my e-mail
question about the big yellow glow in the clouds below Haleakala: Quote:
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[Edit: Second look, this time at the detailed shot] Oh! The clouds are below the observatory, so what we're seeing in the distance is indeed direct (though mostly masked/diffused) lighting. Never mind. I'll go back to sleep now. ![]() Pretty shot though.
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Jeff's explanation makes sense. The glow close to the scopes is just too bright to be Honolulu.
Interesting side note: The October 2005 issue of Astronomy Magazine shows a 25 minute full-sky exposure. Along the horizon in this picture taken near Desert Center, California is glow from El Centro, California, Mexicali, Mexico, Palm Springs, Califorina and Las Vegas, Nevada, all of which are well below the horizon. |