2012 Article?

Pittance · #1 (**permalink**) 30-April-2008, 03:05 PM

Feel free to delete this post if it is miscategorized or anything. I saw this article: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...r-get-on-2012/ today and was wondering if the 2012 debunking article has already been written. I did a search, but didn't get much back except 1 other post that mentions he needs to write one. Any ideas?

01101001 · #2 (**permalink**) 30-April-2008, 03:51 PM

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I did a search, but didn't get much back except 1 other post that mentions he needs to write one. Any ideas?

No, I haven't seen the BA finish the commitment to rip 2012 apocalypticism to shreds. He's been pretty busy lately. And 2012 isn't going away -- until it's in our rear-view mirror -- so he's got time.

Until then, here's some material to read, from dozens and dozens of topics on BAUT Forum:

KaiYeves · #3 (**permalink**) 30-April-2008, 11:41 PM

Second post, wow. You don't miss a beat, do you, binary guy?

01101001 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-May-2008, 02:53 AM

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Second post, wow. You don't miss a beat, do you, binary guy?

I think I missed a beat. Or two. But, like, 45 minutes passed and nobodies jumped in to predict me and my list would appear real soon. How odd.

Van Rijn · #5 (**permalink**) 01-May-2008, 08:01 AM

I don't know how it got past us. We'll all try to do better next time.

01101001 · #6 (**permalink**) 01-May-2008, 05:15 PM

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I don't know how it got past us. We'll all try to do better next time.

I think it was sort of hiding in this section -- appropriately, being a question about the BA's assault on 2012. Usually the mentions of 2012 are found in Q&A and Conspiracy Theories, but they're different sorts of threads. (And, confidential to pittance, don't feel picked on. I just expect any thread that mentions 2012 might draw seekers armed with search engines, so I like to provide the long list mainly for those wandering eyeballs.)

Anyway, I do appreciate when others predict my coming. It softens up the ground. It greases the skids. It puts palm fronds before my... donkey... No. That ain't right. Um... But, thanks all.

Disturbing analysis: one-third through 2008, we've accumulated at least 15 BAUT topics related to 2012. That's nearly one a week. If the acceleration continues (I'm gonna blame dark energy), by mid-2011, we should see about one topic per hour. Gird thy loins. I girded mine this morning.

Swift · #7 (**permalink**) 01-May-2008, 07:55 PM

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Disturbing analysis: one-third through 2008, we've accumulated at least 15 BAUT topics related to 2012. That's nearly one a week. If the acceleration continues (I'm gonna blame dark energy), by mid-2011, we should see about one topic per hour. Gird thy loins. I girded mine this morning.

I hope it was good for you.

As I have previously predicted, the world will end in 2012. The destruction will be caused by the creation of an Information Blackhole, from the density of links in your 2012 post, that will exist at that time.

Gillianren · #8 (**permalink**) 01-May-2008, 10:54 PM

Imagine the board's density at that point!

KaiYeves · #9 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 12:51 AM

Is it okay for me to call you binary guy?

eightyape · #10 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 12:54 AM

Now i know how you lot feel about the doomsday folk and their 2012 rumblings but the mayan calender does draw to an end at this particular point in time and coincides with the 26000 year axis wobble shift,
the mayans understood the rhythms of the earth from their observations and associated the various timeshifts with particular phases of misfortune/goodfortune- and if we can presume that their cultures timekeeping was taking place for a few tens of thousands of years previously, seeing as its a 26000 year calender its not a big leap really,
now i know you are astronomers but put a geology hat on for a minute and take a look down a timeline of the earths history over the past 100,000 years frinstance 26000 years ago- we entered a mini ice age,
57500 years ago- major volcanic ash cloud
72000 years ago was the toba mass extinction event,
the mayan calender just happens to coincide with its cycle beggining at the mini ice age and culminating now (manmade global warming may not be the only reason all that white stuffs melting is all im saying) and if the milankovitch wobble were to be a possible cause of a gravitational lensing effect that gave us more tension in our already quite active tectonic plates then the mayans would have done a pretty good bloody job of predicting the end of the world!
you are very dismissive of a warning put in place thousands of years ago by a people with an understanding that is very different to your own, cos you dont get it
and admit it, it makes you slightly nervous go 0on just a little what with yellowstone maybe being due a blowup too,(2.1millionyrsago,1.2millionyrsago,0.6milliony rsago makes me nervous anyhoo. any of you lot ever been near a volcano? its warm i tell you.
we are in a very priveleged window of easy living on this ball of fireworks and we should all be aware that ice ages come on pretty quick.
and come off it you not see that <edit> comet <edit> jupiter right in its hurricane in 97? you dont see many of them every aeon do you?
summats going on all the ice is melting and the weathers gone mad, the mayans predicted destruction and that kinda looks like what were getting manmade or no, so they were right and your planetary alignment musings are moot.

KaiYeves · #11 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 12:58 AM

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comet <edit> jupiter right in its hurricane in 97? you dont see many of them every aeon do you?

You're confusing the Shoemaker-Levy collision of '94 with the bright comet Hale-Bopp that was visible from Earth in '97.
Being as big as it is, stuff probably does collide with Jupiter once in a while, but this is the first time we've had Hubble to look at it with.
And as for Hale-Bopp, the 20th century actually had FEWER bright comets than the 19th or 18th.

eightyape · #12 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 01:39 AM

what? fewer brighter comets? who said anything about comets? or more bright ones? my allusion to the comet striking jupiter was to strike a balance to past times when such things would be considered a portent if you will, and it seems they are an omen cos we are <edit>, we went past the glacial melt tipping point some years ago now imho(which as a climate researcher isnt that humble) and your petty rebuttal to my essential point by picking holes in my recollection of dates is frankly rather pathetic and you also reinforce the portent thing by looking for them and saying its not the end of the world cos we havent seen enough comets,as for the 94 thing i was only 13 at the time and was more concerned with bb guns and mancity.

eightyape · #13 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 01:48 AM

the mayans believed that the dark area of the milky way was the doorway to the underworld and it was associated with very bad things which is understandable seeing we/they had previously had an ice age and two massive volcanoes every time it came round?!!?!?!
and here we go again bad things is happening again!
<edit. you dont even need a mayan to tell you we had the clash in the 70s
the ice age is coming,
the suns zooming in,
engines stop running,
the wheat is growing thin,
a nuclear era but i have no fear cos london is drowning out
and i live by the river.

Neverfly · #14 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 02:05 AM

eightyape, please review the Rules Of The Board.

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In fact- it would be much more effective because I'm, pretty inclined not to read your posts considering the amount of nonsense in them- not including the 2012 nonsense, which you incidentally have got backwards, wrong and totally incorrect as well. It's what you get when you read woo woo sites and don't actually use your brain or do any research on your own.

Neverfly · #15 (**permalink**) 02-May-2008, 02:15 AM

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