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I've come across this story randomly that said that the sun polar shift around 2012 will create a solar storm and could send a big plasma blob towards earth that would knock off any means of communication/electricity/tv etc..
is this correct? Cause if it is, we're gonna become primitive dark age cannibals again and that wont last long with all the stuff in the water. |
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You're mixing up two things. One, a solar flare could theoretically severely disrupt communication on the earth. It is an uncommon event, but apparently could happen. But there's nothing special about 2012, really. It could happen any time, more likely at the top of a solar cycle. But I think it's becoming increasingly unlikely that 2012 will be the top of the cycle. You can read more here.
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I'm curious about your use of the phrase "primitive dark age cannibals." Why do you believe everyone's ethical stance will be changed if we do lose the grid? (We won't, at least not for long.) I'm sure you mean it as hyperbole--I hope you mean it as hyperbole. However, I'd like you to really think about it. A solar flare does not last long. Even assuming every transformer on Earth blew, assuming every satellite were knocked out, and so forth, we do still have the knowledge to rebuild.
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Wrong, i'm not some conspiracy nut or anything; i just saw that no one was talking about these sun storm things and i wanted to see what this forum had to say about it. You guys do know what getting a second opinion means right?
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According to this article, yes it could. We don't really know, but it could be quite serious. We can't be sure of the effects because we've never experienced a "Carrington event" in the telecom age.
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So in these three years, how would we be able to manufacture and transport goods and fuel from place to place, and what would be the jobs of most people in such a crisis? Would anyone in developed nations starve? How much in the way of food should one stock up in anticipation of such a disaster?
- Maha Vailo
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As Jens said, a very high energy Coronal Mass Ejection could have very serious consequences on such things as the power grid. But the odds of such an event are very low.
But, the latest projects are that the next solar cycle will not peak till about May 2013 (not December 21, 2012), and this will actually be a pretty quiet cycle. Quote:
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People in developed nations starve every day.
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[nitpick]Are't you thinking of developing countries, Gillianren?[/nitpick]
- Maha Vailo
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No, I'm sure she meant developed countries. And she is correct to say so. There are people who starve to death in places like the US and Germany and Japan. I don't know if "every day" is is correct, but it certainly happens.
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What makes 2012 more likely that a CME will hurtle to earth and fry our satellites and electric grids? I will tell you...
Its all because the Mayan calendar runs out. There seems to be a direct link: end of the long count calendar, CME's attracted to earth. Scientists can not explain the correlation, but there are a lot of non-scientific people on the web who can...for $19.95. |
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I've looked at the figures. It's every day. It's pretty heartbreaking.
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OK, I'd love to see where you got the idea that people actually starve to death even in 1st world countries. Go hungry, yes, but starve to death? In other words, "cite, please?"
- Maha Vailo
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I can't give you specific citations, but I read the newspaper, and from time to time I see stories about somebody starving to death (really starving to death) in Japan, which is one of the richest countries in the world. Usually it is an elderly person who was rejected from welfare for some reason, and didn't have relatives to rely on.
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^ I don't want that to happen to me, and I feel my family is just a few steps away from suffering that fate. What's a broke-as-heck family supposed to do?
- Maha Vailo
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Might I suggest that we limit the discussion in this thread to 2012 and solar storms, and if people want to discuss other topics, that they do that in other threads
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