I still see people posting nonsense about a 2012 apocalypse. I can only wonder how much this is upsetting archaeologists that specialize in Mayan civilization. Perhaps they have to roll their eyes much more so than astronomers, when asked about it.

It's become an industry now like the Apollo Hoax conspiracy and UFOs. The nice thing is that it has a built-in expiration date. Once 2012 passes and we're all still here, it'll evaporate like previous end of the world hysteria, such as Y2K and the passing through the tail of Halley's Comet.

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Yeah, the 2012 theories will be proven wrong, but then people will just start making up doomsday theories with a new date. And even though no end-of-the-world prediction has been right yet, people will still believe these new 'prophecies.'

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It's giving me a headache, also. I have a great interest in archeology, and I agree with you that it must drive serious archeologists crazy to be asked questions like this repeatedly.

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I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

And all of that is why we needed yet another thread about it.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

LOL!!!

Hey, Binary man has mouths to feed and needs a steady supply if his link farm is going to keep growing.

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One Earth, One Sky - IYA 2009
All moderation in purple

This is not just about the Mayan calender, but much more. From Nostrademus, to
present day understanding. That we are heading for destruction as a race.
So much farcical compacency that denies history puts our head in the sand.
The infastucture we all rely on, that is computers, would be fried in the event of
a massive solar flare, the same scenario even worse if we are subject to a gamma
ray burst from a nearby supernova. Then there is the threat of a massive volcano
eruption, Yellowstone is long past it's time cycle.
75 K years ago, Toba, a massive volvano, almost wiped out mankind, and compromised
the genetic pool of human evolution. Oh I almost forgot, an asteroid strike that we are
still unprepared for, and have not the resourses to deal with.
Perhaps 2012 not so much nonesense after all.
Nokton.

My younger sister is egyptologists and she gets asked silly questions all the time. You know, the mummy-curse and pyramid-magic stuff etc
But she likes "Stargate SG-1"

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Yes, it is. Actually sit down and read Nostradamus, then get back to me about how clearly he predicts anything.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Some how this fictional quote seems the appropriate response
But seriously Nokton... I hope you are not serious.

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One Earth, One Sky - IYA 2009
All moderation in purple

You know, BAUT almost ran out of '2's, '1's, and '0's late last month. We had to order six more crates of numerals, and we have a whole warehouse full of '4-8's that are gonna spoil if someone doesn't come up with a good scare using the middle digits soon.

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With smiling [faces] lyin' to ye' everywhere ye' go
Turn to, and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain
And like the Mary Ellen Carter, rise again.

Why be original? Try the Hollywood Method (tm); attach them to an already popular phenomenon.

On 12/12/2012, there will be 3 signs that the earth is ending. 4 massive earthquakes will send tidal waves over all 7 continents, followed by 5 days of violent weather. 6 will be afraid of 7, because 7 8 9!!! 3355399!!!!!! OooOoOOoO!

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.
"In order to increase awareness of the homeless, security have been given binoculars."

I thought passage through the tail of Halley's comet, composed of unobtainium, was what protected us from annihilation during Y2K? Having tested it successfully already, all we need to do is obtain another comet-tail for 2011 pete

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A second rate theory explains after the fact.
A first rate theory predicts.
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I did some research on the history of the 2012 apocalypse and found that it was started when the History Channel made a documentary about it.

Why the History Channel should do a program speculating about a purported future catastrophe? It is irresponsible and alarmist.

For the pretty green paper with dead presidents on it.

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I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Well, at least it was not put on the Science Channel.
While mentioning the Science Channel, I knew about it for years until I was able to tune into it a couple of months ago. My assumptions about its content were very wrong, as most of the programming on it is really dumbed down for consumption by couch potatoes.

Citizens of Planet Earth come and go, but Chicken Little will live forever.

What's even more disturbing is when The Science Channel ran an entertaining program showing the landscape, gravity, and atmosphere on different moons in our solar system (I think John Lithgow was the narrator), it was based on what we know of them. Still, in the description, it was labeled fantasy. Yet, when they run programs about 2012, it's description labels it educational. That whole discovery package has a funny way of differentiating the two.

Oddly Nimoy's show "In Search of.." mentions the date Dec. 24 2011 as the date of the end of Mayan "civilization cycle" This was in an episode from 1978. (youtube@4:40) 12/21/12 must be more marketable then 12/24/11.

Well, I would venture to guess that the people promoting the 2012 scenario were in diapers when that episode aired.

No argument with you on your point, he never clearly predicted anything, just wrote
many poems about scenarios that may happen. Thing is, the fact that one of many
comes true, does not him a prophet make. But rather a brother of statistical reason.
If you cast your net wide enough, a fish you will catch,
you will understand Gillian.
Nokton

And their parents left them in front of the tv. Someone is trying to monetize on a childhood memory, skewed with time. Gawd, it really is the third parent!

Write enough nonsense, and apparently, someone will think you have. No. He never clearly predicts anything in all those "poems." ("Quatrains" is, in fact, the correct term.) He wrote hundreds of the things, and in all the years since, there has never been a scholarly consensus before the fact about what anything he wrote even means. That infamous "Hister" verse? Was, before World War II, assumed to be about the Danube, because that's an archaic word for it. Certainly the man never mentioned anyone else by name.

The one clear, unobscured prediction I know he's made was that the then-king of France would live a long, healthy life. The king died very soon afterward. Actually read the stuff, for preference in a version with analysis. They're funnier, because it's nice to see the "experts" disagree.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I guess it's a good creative writing exercise, trying to make up a theory, then work it obscurely into a short piece of poetry, but it has no place in science.

When someone extracts a prediction from it, rather than injects a postdiction into it, then I'll be interested. Enough so to make a note of it and check back after the predicted date of occurence anyway.

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Have studied the Quatrains in detail Gillien. My conclusion is they are not unlike so
many faiths and beliefs that rely upon interpretation of the spoken or written word.
My contention has ever been, if you have something to say, say it clearly and deny
ambiguity. Alas, so much that was spoke and written, never was, but just a construct
of an imagination that wanted it so, and tried to perpetuate it by creating riddles to
avoid the real truth. Feel you will understand Gillien. One thing more, and I seek your
indulgence. You have an anger within you. I would like to understand. Please do not
misinterpret my genuine request. Hands over the head now, and knees pulled up to
the chest.....Value you, and your ideas.
Nokton.

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I do not understand your point, Hornblower. Levity is the refuge of the ones who fail to
understand a concept of science and reason.
Science, reason, and history, dictate that evolution on this planet has suffered mass
trauma in the extinctions due to climate change, asteroid impact, basalt flood planes
et al.
The fact that 'we' are here, is testament to natures ultimate scenario. Intelligence.
OK. Rock my boat. Life in one form or another may pervade the known universe,
but intelligent life is another question.
With one eye on the moderators here, may I ask what your journey is. To walk the
walk, or talk the talk.
Nokton

My sincere apologies, no offence intended

I am offended a lot on this forum by people that post outlandish theories or statements and then leave without responding to the replies to their OPs. Sometimes I think they are doing it just to compel us to respond.