Am I the only one, who finds it offensive that a pro-Moon Hoax article is hosted on a UK government domain ?!

http://www.tauntondeane.gov.uk/tdbcs...ges/index.html

VO!CE 24-7 is a magazine for 11-18 year olds in Taunton Deane. It is written, designed and edited by young people for young people and has a print-run of 10,000.

Must admit that it gives me the chills to think that the following crap was made available to 10.000 young Brits in the age of 11 to 18 ..... And then on top of that, the whole mess is hosted on a UK government domain !!!! Honestly !!!! #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

http://www.tauntondeane.gov.uk/tdbcs...Issue%209.html

http://www.tauntondeane.gov.uk/tdbcs...ggesthoax.html

The biggest hoax of them all?

It has been written down in history books that on 20th July 1969, Neil A. Armstrong became the first man to walk on the moon. One of mankind’s greatest feats. The ultimate goal achieved in the space race.

Man had boldly gone where no man had gone before. Or had he?

Being the little stirrer that I am, let me cast some doubt in your minds: have the Americans pulled the wool over our eyes and were the moon landings faked? - cue dramatic music.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is evidence to suggest that this wasn’t ‘a giant leap for mankind’ but no more than a prank by the Yanks. One fifth of the American public believe it’s a joke. I have to say though, that as jokes go it’s, well...poor, even by my standards.

Possibly you are thinking, but why? Why do some people believe we didn’t go to the moon? I’m so sure we did. They’ve written it down in books for crying out loud. Of course it happened! It’s fact, OK?!

But let me ask you, were you there with the astronauts when they landed? Can you be absolutely certain that man walked on the moon? Do you believe everything you are told? To me, some things just don’t add up."

And then the article ends by linking to Babel Magazine and recommending Bart Sibrel´s "movie" !!!!!! On a UK government domain !!!!!!

However,

Although if it were really a joke (or even if it weren't), she should have included a link to Bad Astronomy or Clavius to balance the nonsense she linked to.

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lol. I just sent them an e-mail telling them that, lol

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Apollo: The History and the Hoax
Enter the World of Athran

Study it closely, boys. That's as close as the British government will ever get to space travel. #-o

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Why is it that people seem to think that the Iraq situation prooves that the moon landings were faked.

If anything the whole Iraq affair proves just how hard it is for governments to keep secrets.

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Almost every single peice of their "evidence" has already been explained millions of times, why do people insist on spreading false info? [-X

Media fashion jumping on a bandwagon that fills empty space. It doesn't matter what you fill it with as long as it gets noticed. Objective truth becomes a secondary inconvenience.

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The failure to find WMD's so far seems to say to people that the US and the UK governments deliberately lied about WMD's. GWB had to whip old Saddam for daddy's little old oil business.

In fact all the alleged atrocities by Saddam Husain were fabrications by the CIA, and we all know that the nerve gas attack on Hallabjuh was a US government CIA weapons test :roll:

But I digress :wink:

If the US government lied about Iraq , then, so the belief permeates that lying comes second nature to the American government. How can you trust anything out of the NASA lie machine. You can tell when an American government persion is lying, by the fact their lips are moving or their fingers are typing etc (Get the picture)

As I said in my very first post here, the US government has a credibility gap, i.e no body believes them, ergo the lunar landings must have been a hoax, because the US government said they happened

Make perfect logical sense

Really

The whole Iraq debate has exposed the extreme lack of critical thinking skills throughout the entire world. People both for and against the war have spent many months now spouting speculative conspiracy theories, straw men, ad hominems, wishful thinking and other fallacies.

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This forum is not for discussion of non-astronomy political topics! Sheesh!

What.

Mostly standard stuff that gets shot down all over the place, but stuff like

really gets my goat. It's simply an appalling and odious idea that has no basis in reality. NASA would have to kill every last person involved in the program to cover something up.

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Unfortunately, we're down to about 17 ounces of the highly unstable stuff that does.

But these political topics are interconnected though :roll:

The disbelief in the Apollo program could possibly have been increased by "Poison Root" with other apparently unrelated topics like Iraq.

The Apollo program itself was a result of the Cold War, and the conflicting ideologies of capitalism and communism.

Can we not discuss these, so that we are able show how there is no link to the HB's :-?

This is the one that destroyed my friendship with a guy at my church. He didn't see anything wrong with blithly accusing NASA employees of murder. And he's a devout Christian! *shakes head sadly* It indeed odious.

It's also very silly. The Apollo 1 fire was tremendously expensive beyond the cost of lives. It also delayed the program, when they were already pushing a deadline and struggling to beat the Soviets. (Little did they know, the Soviets were already falling behind.) If they had wanted the men dead, and for it to look like an accident, there would have been easier ways to accomplish it.

Blue Moon said:
I am not quite sure why you're so offended. That it is a site funded by your tax dollars? The site explains that it is written, designed, and edited by teenagers. I think it is safe to say there is no way to confuse this as official information from the government. Because it is the views and interests and contributions of youth, you can bet that site is full of stupid and incorrect things - after all, why should it be better than the professional press? Seriously, they're teenagers - they only think they know everything.

This appears to be one of those initiatives to sponsor growth and encourage young people to develop their abilities and interests. It is sponsored by two groups - Making Youth Count and Youth Arts Forum. Thus the government web site. About Us page

Instead of getting frustrated, take the opportunity and give them feedback. Point out how easily one can be mislead by the misinformed, and how easy it would be to find the answers to those questions. Encourage the author to do more research. After all, she's just a kid - surely she's young enough to still learn something.

iFire said:
The first time you see it, it's new to you. This stuff spreads because there's always someone who hasn't seen it, much less seen the answers.

frogesque said:
In this case it appears to be more of a case of a teenager finding something curious and reposting as an act of whimsy, to share the fun.

Wingnut Ninja said:
This appears to be a new twist of ignorance. How does a lack of atmosphere prevent clear pictures? The typical argument has to do with crispness of shadows because of the lack of atmosphere to scatter the sunlight. Can't imagine where she got this new idea.

I'm sending feedback.

Sorry about that digression. It has to be said the similarity in complete ineptitude though.

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The bit about crisp photos not being possible in lack of an atmosphere is just absurd. Why do they think we need Hubble and other space telescopes in order to get lovely crisp pictures that aren't possible from the ground because of Earth's !#@% atmosphere!?

And, the line about the Apollo 1 fire being a way to get rid of the astronauts ... That's a low and dirty maneuver. It's amazing that that teenager would even think of posting something like that.

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But if you remember the Fox TV show, they said that as well and had relatives apparently questioning the "official" version.

It may seem vile, but is the stuff of conspiracy theories. The most recent example of this is the "Hunt the Boeing" website questioning that a third plane hit the Pentagon on 9-11

We still have to refute this, distasteful though that may be. :roll: