I used to be convinced by the pro-Apollo arguments but I've come across new evidence that cannot be ignored. Refute it if you can, you so-called scientists - but I won't be holding my breath.

Let me begin with an observation. There are two kinds of people who are entitled to express forceful opinions on a specialist subject such as physics:

1. Actual physicists who spent years studying physics.

2. People who know virtually nothing about the subject but who begin their statements with, "I'm no physicist, but..."

Consider me in the second category.

Right, here's the new evidence.

a. I vaguely remember reading something that mentioned a pre-war article written by A Scientist whose name escapes me who said rocket travel in space is impossible because outside the atmosphere there is nothing to push against. The atmosphere is about 80-90 miles high whereas the distance to the moon is 238,000 miles, so that proves the "mission" took place in low Earth orbit.

b. Apollo 11 allegedly landed on the Sea of Tranquility. But at the time the moon's phase was half-moon - the half that didn't include the Sea of Tranquility. Are we seriously supposed to believe they landed on the half of the moon that wasn't there?

c. Computing power in 1969 was not up to the job. Yes, I know you've heard that before. But consider this: the computing power required to guide an ordinary missile is equal to that required for advanced A.I. systems. This was clearly implied in the movie Small Soldiers.

d. During one mission, an astronaut on the moon's surface accidentally overinflated the other's helmet, causing it to swell up like a balloon. The astronaut then floated upwards as if bouyed. Now kindly explain how that could have happened, given that air weighs more than vacuum!

(Edited to note that in point 'd' I might have confused the moon landing coverage with an episode of the zany BBC comedy "The Goodies".)

Recheck your calendar - April Fool's Day was two weeks ago... :wink:

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Both of these criticisms can easily be answered by the television show "I Dream of Jeannie." Now, everyone KNOWS that the establishment uses so-called fictional television shows to leak the truth to those of us who are ready for it. Clearly, Jeannie blinked the moon away, but after the landing, she fixed it.

Also, you don't NEED a computer when you have a Jeannie.

I really don't know why people like the BA and JayUtah bother with nonsense like complicated scientific explanations. All they really need is to reference important historical documents like the aforementioned "I Dream of Jeannie."

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That was very compelling, I'm with you on this now. How could I have been so blind? I'll take it a step further, I don't think the moon exists at all. It's just a laser light image shined in the sky, by NASA, to bilk the taxpayers out of money. Now they are trapped in the lie and affraid of having to give back the money, thus the moon is still shown every night by NASA. Some times they even forget to turn it off and you can see it during the day!

Mars would be even easier to fake because it's just an orange dot. It's all a big scam.

Venus too, they just fly and airplane around with the lights on. Though I admit it could be UFO's which NASA claims do not exist.

Prove me wrong all you paid NASA debunkers and don't use none of those fake NASA photos either because, unlike you, I am open minded enough to not believe my own eyes.

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Hah! The moon does so exist!

Otherwise, where does green cheese come from? Answer me that!

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My refrigerator, if I leave other kinds of cheese there long enough.

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I watched one of the early Jeannies about a week ago probably the first in ten years and realized that none of it was filmed in Houston. Lots of palm trees or no live oaks. Even the buildings were just some stock footage. I guess the cast and producers of Jeannie were in on the hoax too. Just trying the fool the public yet again.

As we've all seen before, there is definitive proof that moon does not exist and that any and all references about it are part of an elaborate conspiracy to deceive the people of Earth.

You scared me for a moment - I thought you were going to say something like, "Recheck your calendar - the moon was full when they landed!"

Where's the "phew" emoticon?

I'd agree but for one thing. Long before there were lasers Jules Verne wrote about men going there. BUT, he might have put in a whistle blow with this line:
"A professor once asked ironically of one of his pupils 'Have you ever seen the moon?' The student replied even more ironically 'No sir. But I must say I have heard it spoken of.'"

8-[

NASA hasn't found any trace of Saddam's wmd in mars, so its obvious they have to be in the Moon. Therefore moon MUST exist!

-Lek

Ah, but it was supposed to be Coco Beach, Fl! The Space center was Cape Canaveral. So maybe they were really filming on a Houston backlot and threw in the palm trees to make you think it was Florida!

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Asimov's addition - "Or ignorance."

"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
-- Charles Babbage

You're right! I think Paul's post is a hoax.

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Hah! Got you on this one! I saw Apollo 13. They had slide rules! They didn't need computers!

Curses, I've been rumbled! It's a fair cop, Glom and gethen. I'll come quietly.

Of course, I could argue that the slide rules were the real reason why Apollo 13 didn't land...

that and they couldn't find the moon because the sun was too bright.

perhaps planet x, when it was emerging from another dimension to open a psychic hotline to nancy was blocking the moon out...

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I knew it. The networks were in on the hoax too. Jeannie was a show made just to confuse the public.

Izzat why the rest of the missions went at night? :-s

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