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Old 11-July-2004, 03:28 PM
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As the Twinkies often refer to pretty bad prints or scans to do their rorschaching:
In the last months, JSC has begun to pick one film after the other out of their fridge and scan them with a very good quality - not to the useful limit, but with a very good quality and a resolution of some 4k*4k.
Kipp Teague of the Apollo Archive has done some post-processing, scaling and JPG-conversion on them and they have been put into the ALSJ.
Just now, he finished the lunar surface photography magazine of Apollo 11. The images are not yet in the ALSJ, but on the archive website. So, you can compare what you got until now and what you get now. The difference is often breathtaking.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

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Page 2 of the Apollo 11 section now includes that mission's film magazine "S" in its entirety, representing all photographs taken during the historic first moonwalk on July 20, 1969. Images identified with the prefix AS11-40 are now seen for the first time in their clearest and most accurate presentation to date, and are a result of recent work by Johnson Space Center to digitally scan original Apollo film. The process involves removing each original film roll from a double-freezer, allowing it to thaw, then digitally scanning each frame using an Oxberry adapted HR-500 long roll film scanner. The Apollo magazine "S" raw digital scans were supplied on DVD-R to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal and Project Apollo Archive, for which Kipp Teague processed the images for web presentation. It is with pleasure that Eric Jones and Kipp present to you the EVA photographs of Apollo 11 as never seen before, and coinciding with the 35th anniversary of man's first voyage to the surface of the Moon.
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Old 11-July-2004, 03:57 PM
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Many thanks for that, Harald. Take a bow! =D> And take another for your first line. =D> You could easily have us believing that English is your first language.

I was recently thinking of asking here, where are all the good Apollo photos? Googling for "apollo photos moon -fake -hoax" still got a some conspiracy sites and few of the main sources in the first 100 results.

Perhaps, for the new people, we could post what links we have (in full so that people can save the posts as text) with a brief explanation.

There are thumbnails of every film at
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apollo/catalog/70mm/
but where are the captions? ALSJ?

Lunar landing sites
http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~durda/A...ing_sites.html
Zoom in from earth-view to lunar orbit close-up.

JSC Digital Image Collection
http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
Good quality, but not much Apollo.

Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/i...llo/apollo.htm
A few nice ones.
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Old 11-July-2004, 09:21 PM
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Hey Johnwitts and IanR, it seems that you were right about the edge of the frame cutting a portion off Aldrin's PLSS in the 5903. This new excellent scan supports your theory:
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as11-40-5903.jpg
=D> =D>

And thank you Harald for bringing these new reproductions into my knowledge.
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you were right about the edge of the frame cutting a portion off Aldrin's PLSS in the 5903

I noticed this 20 years ago when I bought "Life in Space," Time-Life Books Inc., Alexandria, Virginia, 1983. On page 175 it has a very high-quality reproduction of the photo which shows nearly the entire picture with just a little cropping at the right and bottom. Headroom has also been added, but there are three distinct "blacks" above the horizon -- the lunar sky, the added headroom and a black border. The lunar sky ends exactly on the top of Buzz's PLSS and the headroom black certainly appears to be cutting off a little of it.

It's interesting that one of the best-known photos of all time came so close to being a disaster.

Edited to add: It's hard to tell at that size, but I think TOO MUCH has been cut off in the above scan -- there should be just one or two more pixels at the top. The biggest one, 1174 kb, at Kipp Teague's site seems to be complete.
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David Percy makes the mistake of arguing that the center fiducial in this image is misplaced because the distance from the top of the frame to the bottom is not equally bisected by the distance from the top of frame to the center fiducial. Of course his idea of the "top" of the frame gives Aldrin suitable headroom.

The Hassy adds about 2 cm of blank space between each frame, so Percy would have to discern the blackness of space from the blackness of the interstitial padding. He provides no justification for his placement of the top border. He claims to have done this analysis on a contact copy of the 70mm roll, but it's clear he has done it using a JPEG scan to which some additional padding has been added.
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Jay,

What an odd coincidence. I was looking at that section of the book this morning and noticed that same thing.
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Hey Johnwitts and IanR, it seems that you were right about the edge of the frame cutting a portion off Aldrin's PLSS in the 5903. This new excellent scan supports your theory:
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as11-40-5903.jpg
=D> =D>
So much for the HB claim that all the moon photos are "perfectly framed."
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Originally Posted by JMV
Hey Johnwitts and IanR, it seems that you were right about the edge of the frame cutting a portion off Aldrin's PLSS in the 5903. This new excellent scan supports your theory:
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as11-40-5903.jpg
=D> =D>

And thank you Harald for bringing these new reproductions into my knowledge.
We seem to have two threads about this...

http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14951
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