I was certainly expecting a parody thread until I noticed the extra s...

Funny how eager you all were to get two cents in this time - we haven't had nearly enough HB's of late have we?

Hey I'm new here, actually came found this from the Skeptic Friends Network when we were dealing with Cobrest (guys read his posts? http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15175 ) and people were showing how he has infected other forums with his so called critical thinking. Anyways, I have been searching around here reading a bunch of the posts. Astrology is probably my worst subject when dealing with the sciences, hopefully that will change.

Anyways, I'm not sure if people have read this, but its a comical take on the landing hoax:

http://www.skepticreport.com/funnies/moonhoax.htm

Edited for error in the first link

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Yea.... ops: only proves my point. Haha, I always get those two mixed up, my bad.

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One really nice thing about the Van Aldrin belts is that you can just buzz right through with nary a blip on your dosimeter!

BTW, this has to be a hit-and-run troll. It already admitted it by writing "here me out" which is "troll" for "I'm out of here"...

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You have our sympathy. By now no one "reads" his posts, instead they do a cursory skim to see if there's any thing new. Nothing so far.

"Cobrest": sounds like a primitive comfort station. Next step up would have Sears catalogs.

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Is that Humphrey perhaps, as in Humphrey B. Bear?

(That's a special g'day to all the Aussies here)

=D>

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Of course I too meant to refer to humphreys the originator of this thread.
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Welcome to the board Ricky, loved your stuff in the SFN coberst threads. I've challenged coberst a few times as well with his "lots of words that say nothing" posts but I've finally washed my hands of him.

humphreys -- if you're still around -- from another thread:

The movie "Capricorn 1'' was filmed five years after the last moon-landing and was deliberately made using Apollo-style hardware, even though it would have been useless for landing on Mars.

In the late 50s and early 60s many Russian and American scientists doubted it was possible to land on the Moon, but rapid advances in computers and other technologies, the experience and knowledge gained from a lot of spectacular failures, plus heaps of money, soon overcame the problems.

Eight (not ten) astronauts died in accidents involving, cars, aircraft and untested spacecraft, but there was nothing mysterious about their deaths. Flying and space travel are dangerous businesses.

Gus Grissom was a very enthusiastic contributor to the space program. To illustrate his concern for safety he hung a lemon on an Apollo SIMULATOR (not the lunar module), which, early on, had some faults, but he was NOT dissatisfied with the entire Apollo program.

Stars didn't show in photos because they are far too faint to register in a photograph of a sunlit scene. To register on film they need at least 30,000 times more exposure than a sunlit object.

The flags appeared to wave only when the astronauts manipulated the main pole which had a horizontal bar at the top holding the flag up. The lightweight structure moved easily in one-sixth gravity and there was no atmosphere to impede the flapping of the nylon flag.

Blast craters didn't appear under the lunar module because the Moon's surface is quite firm and the rocket engine was throttled back. It did, however, blast away the top layer of dust immediately under its nozzle.

Not all shadows on the Moon were dark because the Moon itself reflected light into them, and different camera exposures could lighten them further. We see the Moon's reflectivity when it lights up the Earth at night.

Multiple light sources cast multiple shadows and large light sources cast fuzzy shadows. Objects in the lunar surface photos cast only fairly sharp, single shadows.

Shadows cast by the sun are only parallel if the viewer is perpendicular to them, and their lengths and directions varied on the Moon due to the uneven surface. A key term here is one that is familiar to most artists: VANISHING POINT.

Two video clips are claimed to be taken on the same hill a day apart, but in the original video they were in fact taken only about five minutes apart. An editor of a documentary film made a mistake. Hoax believers make PLENTY of mistakes.

The rocket noise could not be heard above Aldrin's voice because rockets do not make a roaring noise in a vacuum - the roar we hear on Earth is due to the turbulent reaction between the exhaust plume and the atmosphere. The gas exits at above the speed of sound, causing a sort of continuous 'sonic boom'. The only noise audible within the lunar module would have been the flow noise of the fuel and oxidizer through the system. Besides, Aldrin's microphone was sealed inside his helmet and was designed to exclude environmental noise.

The training machine that crashed when Neil Armstrong was flying it did so because it broke after a number of successful flights. It was a very different vehicle to the actual lunar module.

Different photos showed similar backgrounds because the tall mountains were distant, so the astronauts would have had to move many kilometres to exclude them.

The lunar module could not be thrown off balance by the astronauts moving because it had a feedback system which corrected for changes in the centre of gravity (whether by astronaut movement or fuel depletion) by swivelling the rocket nozzle.

No rocket flames were seen when the astronauts took off from the Moon because the special fuels used, hydrazine and dinitrogen tetroxide, do not produce highly visible flames or smoke in a vacuum.

It is claimed that all the pictures taken on the Moon were perfect, but the truth is, they weren't -- most publishers used only the best ones. There were plenty of bad photos which can be viewed on the internet.

Crosshairs were sometimes obliterated by bright objects due to a characteristic of film called emulsion bleed. It can often be seen in photographs of a sunlit scene taken from a shaded room through a window which has an open venetian blind.

Radiation in the Van Allen belt is made out to be much harsher than it was where the astronauts went through it at high speed, and they received less than 1% of a fatal dose.

Neither Earth-based telescopes nor the Hubble telescope can see the moon-landing sites because they are not powerful enough. The Hubble would have to be more than eight times more powerful to see the part of the lunar module that was left on the Moon.

He's gone guys, he was a troll. You're talking to yourselves now.

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Heck, BA had to make a whole forum because of it.

Still waiting for the screams of outrage from Humphrey when he realizes his nom de plume (or de guerre?) has been pirated by an HBer. Think his turtle sense is tingling?

humphreys has likely moved onto another BB he can infect with badly spelled and erroneously labeled woo-woo.

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I'm guess that the Van Aldrin Belt is somewhere just outside the Van Halen Belt, but not as far out as the Van Helsing, Kuiper or Oort Belts.


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ah... next to the Vandenburg Collar?

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