Originally Posted by humphreys

I've read it already. doesn't even mention the Van Aldrin belts. it's disinfo.

come back when you aren't being so closed minded.

Originally Posted by Quoth the Phil

Bad: A big staple of the HBs is the claim that radiation in the van Allen Belts and in deep space would have killed the astronauts in minutes. They interview a Russian cosmonaut involved in the USSR Moon program, who says that they were worried about going in to the unknowns of space, and suspected that radiation would have penetrated the hull of the spacecraft.

Good: Kaysing's exact words in the program are ``Any human being traveling through the van Allen belt would have been rendered either extremely ill or actually killed by the radiation within a short time thereof.''

This is complete and utter nonsense. The van Allen belts are regions above the Earth's surface where the Earth's magnetic field has trapped particles of the solar wind. An unprotected man would indeed get a lethal dose of radiation, if he stayed there long enough. Actually, the spaceship traveled through the belts pretty quickly, getting past them in an hour or so. There simply wasn't enough time to get a lethal dose, and, as a matter of fact, the metal hull of the spaceship did indeed block most of the radiation. For a detailed explanation of all this, my fellow Mad Scientist William Wheaton has a page with the technical data about the doses received by the astronauts. Another excellent page about this, that also gives a history of NASA radiation testing, is from the Biomedical Results of Apollo site. An interesting read!

It was also disingenuous of the program to quote the Russian cosmonaut as well. Of course they were worried about radiation before men had gone into the van Allen belts! But tests done by NASA showed that it was possible to not only survive such a passage, but to not even get harmed much by it. It looks to me like another case of convenient editing by the producers of the program.

Originally Posted by humphreys

so you actually think we went?

what about all the evidence that says otherwise?

Originally Posted by humphreys

okay i don't think we went to the moon. i saw a documentery on fox and it showed conclusively proof that we couldn't have gone for lots of reasons.

1. we can't get into the Van Aldrin belts because of the radiation

Originally Posted by ToSeek

3. the flag is being blown by the wind and there should be any atmostphere to do this

Show me a single video or movie clip of the flag moving without an astronaut touching it, and I will concede this point. But there are no such clips. If an astronaut isn't touching it, it remains perfectly - and I do mean perfectly - still. You try that on Earth on the most wind-free day you can come up with, and you'll still get little breezes moving it about.

Originally Posted by TaeKwonDan

I guess this Cubs game never happened either.

http://www.ucspr.com/cangrejeros/ima..._under_way.jpg

Originally Posted by Darkwing

You should probably qualify that just a little more to: "Show me a single video or movie clip of the flag moving without an astronaut touching it or just having released it..." I don't have a specific clip in mind, but when an astronaut releases the flag, it may wobble a little bit for a second or two as it stabilizes itself to a neutral position.

Originally Posted by humphreys

1. we can't get into the Van Aldrin belts because of the radiation
2. there isn't enough gravity on the moon
3. the flag is being blown by the wind and there should be any atmostphere to do this
4. there are no stars in the pictures and there should be stars on the moon
5. we don't even have the technology to do this now.

Originally Posted by R.A.F.

When I read this threads OP, my first thought was...WOW, married live doesn't seem to be "agreeing" with Humphrey!