Yeah, I lost my feed and just got it back...lost it right as they were starting to discuss the radiation belts.

He can be a slippery fellow, and I think you kept him on task and didn't let him get away with changing the subject.

Good show!

Rob

Outstanding work, Phil. I'd say that "wore each other out" remark was more of a concession of defeat than BS realized he was making!

For the most part, Sibrel was generic enough to keep his words from coming back and biting him (from the limited part I heard). But it should be interesting to go through a transcript and tear it apart.

Is it over? I still can't get the radio back.

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The after-show comments are pumping up Phil...

Yeee-hawwwww!

:ause::

well, now they're into conspiracies...

...and having their own debate.

::snork::

"more rational, intelligent sounding..."

Bart is "off-kilter"

LunarOrbit, didn't Bart say that he finally got to meet Armstrong? That's what I thought he said. And that he asked him to swear on the Bible, which he refused to do.

Maybe I am hearing things?

One of them just said you sounded more sane [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Rob

Boy, if these radio jocks are typical of the intellectual level of our current college undergrads, I fear for our future...

I liked when Phil mentioned the Apollo 12 camera burning out and Bart said "Wasn't that convenient?" and Phil replied without skipping a heart beat "Yeah, well they pointed it at the sun on live TV...".

That made me laugh.

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I thought the flag issue was particulary lame. I was hoping Bart would push some of his new findings, but he seemed content to let the presenters choose the topic for discussion, which was probably a mistake.

Sibrel did claim that Armstrong refused to swear on the Bible that he walked on the moon. I'd love to hear the full story.

There was also a remark about Aldrin. Sibrel said Aldrin told him (on camera) that he (Sibrel) would be famous, which Sibrel seemed to take as meaning he was right, and which I would interpret as being a sarcastic remark directed at an annoying person who's claiming you're a fraud.

You mean all those RARE, EXCLUSIVE, NEVER SEEN BEFORE pictures that have been public domain for 30 years?

He did say he got to meet Armstrong in person last week and Armstrong refused to swear on the bible that the landings were real.

What Bart DIDN'T say was that he has crossed paths with Armstrong in the past and was arrested for it.

I don't blame Neil for not wanting to talk to Bart.

There's a good joke on one of the anti-moon hoax sites (Redzero I think) that goes something like this:

Bart calls Armstrong on the phone;

RING RING

"Hello, this is Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon. I'll be remembered for the rest of time. Who's calling?"

"This is Bart Sibrel, a nobody who wants to get rich by calling you a liar. Hopefully some of your fame will rub off on me."

Click.

"Hello, Mr. Armstrong, are you still there?"

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By the way, Phil, what was the setup? Were you on the phone? Were you hearing Sibrel's remarks over the phone, or on the net? I assume you weren't on site in Burlington...

RalphVanDyke: You mean all those RARE, EXCLUSIVE, NEVER SEEN BEFORE pictures that have been public domain for 30 years?

No, I meant some of the stuff he intends to show in his next video. He told me about that a while ago, but I didn't know he was successful in talking with Armstrong.

Oh boy, more convergent shadows! I can barely contain my excitement
/sarcasm

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On 2002-05-14 16:54, The Bad Astronomer wrote: To bd
Some {many now} years ago in this town {actually across the river}
there WAS a radio station {that would actually allow my voice on the air}
[BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE!] anyway durring SS#22 I would
call in and put the sound comming out of the Gravity wave detector on the Radio?
to make it science I wlould talk at -5 VU "units"
thats a real trick as the VU meter is of course at the station
these days I would insist upon only having my
voice appear on the right speaker if its an FM station .. If its AM the i guess it just don't mater

Yes, they called me in my office at work. I could hear everything over the phone, and I had multiple browser windows open in fron tof me so I could check things quickly if I needed. I only really needed to once, when I went to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal to look at the Apollo 11 image listings.

In all seriousness – can we get a transcript or a copy of the audio – I was out of the office until 11:50 and when I tried to connect their server was down. I only got to hear the Phil’s last sentence then the host’s closing comments. I would love to be able to hear the whole thing.

I asked for a tape from the station. If/when I get it, I'll make a transcript and post it. It'll be a few weeks though.

...yeah right, with Hasslebad camera [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

That's exactly what someone in the room with me said. He's a physicist who specializes in EM detection. Actually his words were, "Not with a f------g Hasselblad you can't!"

Gee, I wish I'd been here. I didn't realize Phil was going to check in here during the presentation. I was madly hammering out notes on my laptop for a latter, more detailed review.

For example, when Sibrel pointed out that perfectly clear color transmissions were made from the CM, I had the answer right away -- dish size. The CM had a big high-gain array. The LM had a piddly little one-meter dish. I could have brought that point up instantly, along with other salient facts. Darn.

I'd say that "wore each other out" remark was more of a concession of defeat than BS realized he was making!

I have to admire Phil's response: "No, I can go on for hours about this."

Sibrel was starting to repeat his "desperation" arguments toward the end: 75% of my viewers have switched sides, I found a straw-man scientist who appears irrational, etc. when those arguments had nothing to do with the points Phil had brought up.

The host picked up on that when he remarked that Sibrel seemed a bit less coherent.