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Old 17-May-2002, 07:58 PM
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I am not so sure that I can subscribe to your conclusion that Sibrel detests Armstrong.

I suggest you go read Jim McDade's information from people who know Sibrel personally. I think it's much easier to make a case that Sibrel does not like Armstrong than a case that Sibrel has Armstrong's welfare at heart.

If Sibrel is a Christian, as he claims he is, then Armstrong (himself recognising the truth and power of Jesus Christ) should do the honorable thing...

Oh, please. You of all people should be able to distinguish between what something is being made to look like, and what it really is. This has nothing to do with the power of Jesus Christ or doing the honorable thing.

You expect Armstrong to have taken the scenario at face value and have believed Sibrel was offering him a golden opportunity. Armstrong knows exactly who Bart Sibrel is and what he does for a living. What possible reason would Armstrong have for trusting a man who has labored for years to portray him as a liar and a fraud, with the flimsiest of evidence?

Good grief, we've known since Troy that accepting gifts from one's enemies is foolish.

...and allay his suspicions.

"Suspicions"? Sibrel's mind is made up, by his own admission. There's nothing to allay. Therefore there's no advantage to acquiesce to his wishes. Do you really think that if Armstrong had sworn on the Bible to have walked on the moon, that Sibrel would just walk away from the whole hoax issue? Come on, Karamoon, you're smarter than that.

but in my eyes the truth would do him (and many others) the power of good.

Neil Armstrong does not need Bart Sibrel in order to make a statement either way. In fact, Sibrel desperately needs Armstrong. Armstrong's cooperation with Sibrel can only benefit Sibrel, and they both know that. Hence the ambush, hence the setup.
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Old 17-May-2002, 08:06 PM
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As always Jay Utah, you say it better
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Old 17-May-2002, 08:16 PM
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As always Jay Utah, you say it better
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Maybe - but your post, Roy, probably is much closer to what Armstrong thinks every time Sibrel's name comes up. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Is it over? I still can't get the radio back.
The internet connection I have was down from 2 am to 11 am CST.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

I look forward to the transcript.
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Old 17-May-2002, 10:34 PM
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Didn't anyone record it, like on tape or minidisc? I was at work so there was no chance. I nearly left my computer running all day with my video recorder recording the audio, but I figured it would run out of tape half way through. Somebody must have done a recording?
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Old 17-May-2002, 11:20 PM
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I missed it too, John - darned work interferes with important stuff. I'm hoping BA is able to get a copy of the tape to load on this site.
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Old 17-May-2002, 11:37 PM
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I almost ran a cable from the "out" port on my sound card to the microphone jack on my stereo, but the only audio tape I could find was one I didn't want to record over. I don't think I have enough hard drive space to record an hour long show either.

Besides, it wouldn't have worked since I lost the feed before the show was over.

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Old 17-May-2002, 11:44 PM
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johnwitts: Didn't anyone record it?

I may have done. I'm not sure. Hm, let's see if I can remember..

http://www.night-sun.co.uk/audio/bart_sibrel.mp3
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Old 18-May-2002, 12:17 AM
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Yes, very good Karamoon. Now, the rest of it?

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Old 18-May-2002, 12:49 AM
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I haven't got it all. There was a problem with the connection, see. Everything was running smoothly and I was recording just fine until the words "net congestion" popped up on RealPlayer. So after a few moments of unsuccessfully trying to reconnect I decided to save what I had, which in itself took longer than it should have as I inadvertently saved the output file as the highest quality possible (56 kBit/s, 24,000 Hz, Stereo). Then I regained my connection but was unable to record, then I lost the connection and so I just gave up. I managed to tune back in shortly before the hour mark was up, just as Phil seized upon the chance to score one last point against Bart, by rejecting what amounted to be a verbal handshake and instead pretending to be cool as a cucumber.
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Old 18-May-2002, 01:27 AM
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just as Phil seized upon the chance to score one last point against Bart, by rejecting what amounted to be a verbal handshake

I forgot, was that before or after Sibrel implied Phil was just a NASA stooge?
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Old 18-May-2002, 01:48 AM
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Ah, well I must have missed that part.

To be honest, I didn't think they were going to make the broadcast at all, what with all the messing about at the beginning of the broadcast: "Just hold on a second. Hello.. Hello.. Are you there?.. HIGH PITCHED SOUND.. HELLO?.."

In fact, after listening to about 10 seconds of Zombie Death Metal I thought I had tuned in to the wrong show!
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Old 18-May-2002, 01:51 AM
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just as Phil seized upon the chance to score one last point against Bart, by rejecting what amounted to be a verbal handshake and instead pretending to be cool as a cucumber.
Do you mean when he said we were both frazzled by this? That is hardly a reconciliation.

I know you may think the Moon landings were faked, Karamoon, but don't let that cloud your judgement about what happened on the air. I wasn't pretending to be cool, I was simply stating that I would be happy to debate him all day long, if need be. There was no pretending at all on my part.
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Old 18-May-2002, 01:58 AM
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TBA: I wasn't pretending to be cool, I was simply stating that I would be happy to debate him all day long, if need be.

Fair enough. It just sounded like the perfect opportunity to deliver an uppercut, which you dully did.
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Old 18-May-2002, 02:11 AM
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To be honest, I didn't think they were going to make the broadcast at all, what with all the messing about at the beginning of the broadcast:

Me too. I'm not sure, but it looks like WRUV is a radio station operated in conjunction with a university. That means it's run by college students and terribly underfunded.

In fact, after listening to about 10 seconds of Zombie Death Metal I thought I had tuned in to the wrong show!

I'm glad we can both laugh about that. I was thinking, "Uh-oh, what has Phil gotten himself into?"

Phil, did you hear the eerie music they were playing faintly in the background? I guess they got a good deal on the broadcast rights for the X-files soundtrack.
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Old 18-May-2002, 03:43 AM
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I didn't hear much. I was listening on RealPlayer for a while before the show started, but then they called me and I had to kill it. All I heard were Sibrel and the host.
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<a name="20020518.12:46"> page 20020518.12:46 aka MP3
On 2002-05-17 18:44, Karamoon wrote: To; My MIDI driver {Mini}




http://www.night-sun.co.uk/audio/bart_sibrel.mp3

OK I downloaded ? BART .MP3 30888 0518
thirty eight eight eight? havn't a clue as to how many seconds ok picoseconds? Now what?
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Old 19-May-2002, 01:01 AM
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TBA: I wasn't pretending to be cool, I was simply stating that I would be happy to debate him all day long, if need be.

Fair enough. It just sounded like the perfect opportunity to deliver an uppercut, which you dully did.
I hope you mean "Duly", Kara, me old mucker. If this debate has been anything, it certainly hasn't been *dull*.

If I possessed any conscience at all, I'd even feel sorry for Bart, getting trounced by
the BA.
But I haven't, so I won't! Heh heh heh!
Here's waiting for that transcript...

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Old 22-May-2002, 05:16 AM
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Ed Mitchell on being "interviewed" by Bart Sibrel: "Just this week, I encountered a renegade TV crew, masquerading as bonefide press that attempted to trick me into looking at some bogus film footage and acknowledging Apollo was a fake."
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Old 22-May-2002, 06:17 AM
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Jay, where'd you hear that? Maybe I should try to give Mr. Mitchell a buzz and let him know what happened last Friday. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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BA – go to Ed Mitchel’s web page. It is in his EDM Discussion group – his response to “Doubting Thomas” on May 17, 2002. While EDM seems to view the universe from a non-mainstream point of view, I’ve found his discussions on Apollo and space flight very frank and well thought out.

In this response he expresses in no uncertain terms that he thinks the whole Apollo hoax phenomenon is ridiculous.

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In this response he expresses in no uncertain terms that he thinks the whole Apollo hoax phenomenon is ridiculous.
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Old 22-May-2002, 04:14 PM
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