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Old 12-August-2004, 07:52 AM
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Default Possible new hoax claim!

At work we have someone who believes in all sorts of conspiracy theories :-? , Roswell, Alien Abductions and of course the Moon Hoax.

Anyway he was talking about this 'wonderful' documentary he had purchased on the moon hoax, he went into some details about the film however most of the points covered were old hat, waving flags, non-parallel shadows, etc.

Then he described the 'clincher' supposedly the film shows an image of the lunar surface then superimposes it on a photo taken 'in California' and the lunar terrain is a 'perfect match' for the Californian terrain.

This is the first time I have heard of this particular claim, has anyone heard of it?

More to the point can someone supply me with the title of this film as I would like to know who is responsible for this travasty(sic).
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NASA simulated a section of the lunar surface in detail using carefully placed explosives to produce as near a replica as they could. It was used for training purposes. I would guess this is the image used.

Have a look at http://www.usgs.gov/125/articles/flagstaff.html

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Using explosives to create artificial impact craters, the lunar surface near the proposed first manned American landing site on the Moon was replicated in the Cinder Lakes volcanic field near Flagstaff.
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NASA simulated a section of the lunar surface in detail using carefully placed explosives to produce as near a replica as they could. It was used for training purposes. I would guess this is the image used.

Have a look at http://www.usgs.gov/125/articles/flagstaff.html

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Using explosives to create artificial impact craters, the lunar surface near the proposed first manned American landing site on the Moon was replicated in the Cinder Lakes volcanic field near Flagstaff.
No, that's just the official line. After all, they had gone to all the trouble of creating it. Someone might discover it later and put 2+2 together and figure things out. So they spread the disinformation that they created it for "training" when it's really where they filmed the lunar surface footage.

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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO. The whole Flagstaff lunar area was created just to make future HBs look foolish when they pointed it out.
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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
Actually, everybody knows Area 51 is just a decoy to draw people away from the really serious stuff going on at Area 52 just down the road
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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
Actually, everybody knows Area 51 is just a decoy to draw people away from the really serious stuff going on at Area 52 just down the road
I remember a documentry about Area 51, (there were issues with employees getting sick and the doctors not being allowed details of substances handled which prevented them treating the employees but thats bye the bye)

It said that because so many people yak about Area 51, they moved all of the good stuff to Denver.
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I remember a documentry about Area 51, (there were issues with employees getting sick and the doctors not being allowed details of substances handled which prevented them treating the employees but thats bye the bye)

It said that because so many people yak about Area 51, they moved all of the good stuff to Denver.
Think I saw the same thing. The John Doe cas I think it was.
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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
Actually, everybody knows Area 51 is just a decoy to draw people away from the really serious stuff going on at Area 52 just down the road
I thought that was Area 51-A! #-o


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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
Actually, everybody knows Area 51 is just a decoy to draw people away from the really serious stuff going on at Area 52 just down the road
I thought that was Area 51-A! #-o
No, that's the cellar at Area 51. Area 53 is next door, and Areas 50 and 52 are across the road.
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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
I tried that response when he bought up the California thing, he responded that the 'documentary' had 'officials' :-? confessing that it (the fake footage) was filmed 'just outside Hollywood' #-o .

I suspect that he may have seen both 'Dark Side of the Moon' and the 'FOX Documentary' and got them confused :-? .
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... and the 'FOX Documentary' ...
I think the official term is 'Crapumentary'.
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... and the 'FOX Documentary' ...
I think the official term is 'Crapumentary'.
As opposed to Moore's Crocumentaries?
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Oh you people all have it wrong. The fake videos were all done near Sudbury, Ontario, Canada!

Areas 51, 51-A and 52 were all decoys.
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Utter rubbish. Everyone knows the moon landings were faked in Area 51 in Nevada right next to the Rowell UFO.
I tried that response when he bought up the California thing, he responded that the 'documentary' had 'officials' :-? confessing that it (the fake footage) was filmed 'just outside Hollywood' #-o .

I suspect that he may have seen both 'Dark Side of the Moon' and the 'FOX Documentary' and got them confused :-? .
If he can afford those silly videos, get him to buy the BBC series "The Planets". Although it's 5 years old it still contains a lot of good information. In particular, it shows how Apollo was used to do Good Science. Anyone wanting to credit a Moon Hoax has to explain how the *world's* scientists use the Apollo data. It also shows how that crater field was created, and an explanation from Farouk el-Baz as to *why* it was created.
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