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Old 24-September-2004, 11:15 PM
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On the FOX thingy they talked about Japan taking photos in 2003.. anyways, are there any photos taken of the stuff they left on the moon?

Why have I never seen any interviews with people landing on the moon. Shouldnt they be like the most famous people on the planet?[/url]
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On the FOX thingy they talked about Japan taking photos in 2003.. anyways, are there any photos taken of the stuff they left on the moon?
Thousands and thousands. They were taken by the astronauts while they were on the surface! Have a look in the Project Apollo Archive for a stunning collection of them.

I don't know of any Japanese spacecraft en route to the moon - were they referring to Smart-1 perhaps? That is an ESA spacecraft scheduled to reach the moon next year.

The trouble is, it is likely that any photos showing the landing sites will also be claimed by the HBs to be hoaxed! The standard of proof required by the HBs is always one step beyond....

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The name Neil Armstrong doesn't ring any bells?

Ah, with respect, I suspect that you are quite young. Remember, the last man to walk on the moon left it nearly 32 years ago. A generation ago, these guys were lionised and were household names. Unfortunately, in this MTV generation where many people have the attention span of a distracted fruit fly, the extent of their accomplishment is often discarded as dull history. "Sure, you guys landed on the moon, but what have you done recently?"

Also, it is simply not correct that they never give interviews. Many of the surviving moonwalking astronauts (all in their 70's now) do public speaking - I had the pleasure of hearing Harrison Schmitt give a talk only 2 years ago here in Australia. Edgar Mitchell runs a website where you can correspond directly with him on various issues.

(Edited to correct ages: Charlie Duke is just about to turn 69 and Harrison Schmitt is also 69)
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On the FOX thingy they talked about Japan taking photos in 2003.. anyways, are there any photos taken of the stuff they left on the moon?
Thousands and thousands. They were taken by the astronauts while they were on the surface! Have a look in the Project Apollo Archive for a stunning collection of them.

I don't know of any Japanese spacecraft en route to the moon - were they referring to Smart-1 perhaps? That is an ESA spacecraft scheduled to reach the moon next year.

The trouble is, it is likely that any photos showing the landing sites will also be claimed by the HBs to be hoaxed! The standard of proof required by the HBs is always one step beyond....

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The name Neil Armstrong doesn't ring any bells?

Ah, with respect, I suspect that you are quite young. Remember, the last man to walk on the moon left it nearly 32 years ago. A generation ago, these guys were lionised and were household names. Unfortunately, in this MTV generation where many people have the attention span of a distracted fruit fly, the extent of their accomplishment is often discarded as dull history. "Sure, you guys landed on the moon, but what have you done recently?"

Also, it is simply not correct that they never give interviews. Many of the surviving astronauts (all in their 70's now) do public speaking - I had the pleasure of hearing Harrison Schmitt give a talk only 2 years ago here in Australia. Edgar Mitchell runs a website where you can correspond directly with him on various issues.
Ok, thanks alot for your time! Ofcourse its a famous name.. but I think its a bit weird I dont know more about him. oh well,m I havent looked that much either .. :wink:
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Ok, thanks alot for your time! Ofcourse its a famous name.. but I think its a bit weird I dont know more about him. oh well,m I havent looked that much either .. :wink:
No probs.

Armstrong himself is a fairly private person, but he still makes public appearances every now and then. Some of the other moonwalkers are a bit more gregarious.
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Just to add - I also remember lots of interviews. However, even the later moon missions weren't covered as well DURING THE MISSION because, well, it had already been done. You get a good hint of that in the Apollo 13 movie. Of course, interest was renewed in that one when the accident happened. On the later missions, there WAS coverage, but it wasn't like the near continuous coverage for Apollo 11.

So as you might imagine, the interest in the Apollo astronauts dropped off too. They are still public figures, but the high profile interviews slowed down even during the '70s.
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Well, they are getting rather on in age, so you can't expect them to be out and about talking to everyone and anyone about being on the Moon. And it's true that that's a HUGE thing to do in life -- leave your home planet, and land on another body -- a completely alien world -- but no one wants to end their lives in their 30s or 40s. No one wants to define their lives by something they did 30 years ago. These people have moved on to other things.

Public interest has wained because the public is told what they should be interested in, and no one's telling them to be interested in Apollo.
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Old 25-September-2004, 03:25 AM
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On the FOX thingy they talked about Japan taking photos in 2003..
I think they were referring to the SELENE mission, which has been delayed and is now scheduled for launch in 2005.

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Try the following document; it is a 106 page transcript of an interview with Neil Armstrong by Stephen Ambrose and Douglas Brinkley in September 2001.

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/oral...NA_9-19-01.pdf

I've also seen several Apollo astronauts in various TV documentaries. The ones I seem to see most frequently are Buzz Aldrin, Jim Lovell, and Gene Cernan. Lovell spoke quite a bit about his Apollo 13 experience in the PBS documentary Apollo 13, To the Edge and Back. I also had a recent invitation to hear Harrison Schmitt speak at the Univeristy of Alabama Birmingham, but unfortunately I could not attend. I was fortunate to see Neil Armstrong at the centennial of flight celebration last year in Dayton, however he talked about the Wright brothers and not his own Apollo experiences.
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Why have I never seen any interviews with people landing on the moon.
Have you looked?
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Why have I never seen any interviews with people landing on the moon. Shouldnt they be like the most famous people on the planet?
Go to the apogee books website and order some of their Apollo Mission Report books. Most have an interview on CD in them. Many library have these books, if you can't afford them.
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Reminds me a little of the claim I answered the other day, tht none of them had written Autobiograhies. Took me 30 secs to locate on Amazon page with about 15 books by various astronauts from Apollo 7 to 16 including 2 by Buzz and one each from Michael Colins and Neil Armstrong.
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What ??!?!?

You did some research. That's forbidden.
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Old 25-September-2004, 06:16 PM
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thanks alot for the answers!
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Good luck with your search. I recommend this book if you prefer a more relaxed read. It written by the television news coorespondant that was responsible for reporting on the space program from Mercury to Apollo. It's follows a lot about the human factor of the space race. It's about the astronaut's lives and how they were recieved by the public; as well as the technological achievement they served.
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I've also seen several Apollo astronauts in various TV documentaries. The ones I seem to see most frequently are Buzz Aldrin, Jim Lovell, and Gene Cernan. Lovell spoke quite a bit about his Apollo 13 experience in the PBS documentary Apollo 13, To the Edge and Back.
Lovell also had a cameo role in the movie Apollo 13 (one of the officers on the carrier at the end of the movie) and I've seen him several times on TV, talking about both Apollo 13 and other aspects of the space program.
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One of the officers? He was the captain.
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And a Captain is an officer, right?

From the media's standpoint, Apollo is yesterday's news. It is no longer as important to the public's mindset and information needs as, say, how big Kerry's head is or whether Bush can pronounce subliminableble. What's more important, stories from the first man to walk on the moon or what Paris Hilton has to say about world affairs? (Hi, I'm rich and out of touch, but I'm blond and pretty and don't wear much clothing.)
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To put things in time perspective, the Space Shuttle era (1982 to 2004) is longer than the pre-Shuttle era of manned space flight (1961 to 1982).

You might also want to watch the BBC TV series "The Planets". Apart from its impressive title music, the series also contains some interesting interviews with a number of Apollo astronauts, including Jack Schmitt and Pete Conrad.
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And to descend further and further from the sublime...

NPR's "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" this saturday described Paris Hilton's reaction to learning the Wall Street Journal had mentioned her new book.

You guessed it. "The Wall Street Journal? What's that?"


The HB's are becoming more and more an illustration of how much the world has changed since a lot of us were in high school. Questions like "Why aren't the astronauts on my favorite talk show" or "Why didn't they use digital cameras?" Next they'll be asking why we were in any kind of space race with "Russia."
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Since I have no idea who this Paris Hilton is (sounds like a hotel) I suppose I can't complain too much about the younger generation not knowing much about my time.
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