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Old 06-October-2004, 08:00 PM
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I just got a note from Larry Klaes, who sends out lots of space-related newsletters, about a new sitcom being filmed in Nashville. The director is none other than Bart Sibrel. Craig Titley, who was a co-producer of the Fox Apollo Hoax travesty, is the executive producer of this sitcom.

Here's an article in The Tennessean about it, calling it the "Seinfeld of the South".

I can see it now:

Seinfeld-like character: "What about the rocks, the spacesuits, the shadows, the flag?"

Elaine-like character, gesturing with her finger: "Fake, fake, fake, fake."
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From the article: "No relation to the 1974 Robert Altman film, the TV pilot, nicknamed The Seinfeld of the South, follows a young Californian who comes to Nashville seeking fame and fortune in the country music business. Along the way, he meets a peppery young female mechanic with similar aspirations."


A show about country music and southerners? Yikes!!!
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Bart Sibrel co-writing, producing, and directing???

Judging from his previous "efforts", this show might actually be funny...but probibly not in the way they imagine it!
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Old 06-October-2004, 08:26 PM
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Of course every show each of his guests will either:

*Be visiting his webpage
*Watching one of his videos
*Making fun of Jay
*Saying something bad about NASA/Govt./[insert name of big group who he has to pay money to here]
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I don't believe in Nashville, I think it's a hoax by the Govment of Tennessee to attract tourists. I saw the movie and I have proof that the whole thing was shot on a soundstage in Hollywood.
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On a more serious note, I hope he gets sued for copyright infringement for calling it "Nashville".
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I don't believe in Nashville, I think it's a hoax by the Govment of Tennessee to attract tourists. I saw the movie and I have proof that the whole thing was shot on a soundstage in Hollywood.
8-[

On a more serious note, I hope he gets sued for copyright infringement for calling it "Nashville".
Yeah, and I hope he gets Sued by Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld.

Ya' know, for Ruining Seinfeld's Good Name, by Associating it with this Shlogg ...
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From the article: "No relation to the 1974 Robert Altman film, the TV pilot, nicknamed The Seinfeld of the South, follows a young Californian who comes to Nashville seeking fame and fortune in the country music business. Along the way, he meets a peppery young female mechanic with similar aspirations."


A show about country music and southerners? Yikes!!!
Hey hey hey hey Southerners invented country music.
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With any luck it won't get past the pilot episode, or at worst season one.
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I don't believe in Nashville, I think it's a hoax by the Govment of Tennessee to attract tourists. I saw the movie and I have proof that the whole thing was shot on a soundstage in Hollywood.
8-[

On a more serious note, I hope he gets sued for copyright infringement for calling it "Nashville".
Yeah, and I hope he gets Sued by Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld.

Ya' know, for Ruining Seinfeld's Good Name, by Associating it with this Shlogg ...
If they don't sue perhaps a repeat of the Buzz experience?
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Unfortunately you can't copyright a title. You can trademark it, though.
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A show about country music and southerners? Yikes!!!
Having been raised in the Deep South and having kin there, I'll try not to take that personally. :P

Better a sitcom about Southerners than yet another show set in NY or LA that's woefully out of touch with life in the rest of the country...or life in those places for that matter. Ah well, they'll probably screw this one up just as badly.
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Heh. Ive spent most of my life in Florida. While technically not the south i have listened to enougth country to realize its self initiated torture. :-P



[My comments were just a joke folks. relax, im just having fun. :-) ]



Seriously, Would this really work? Haven't we had too many Seinfield clones that failed? How will this be different from the 20 other cemdy sitcoms out there?
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A show about country music and southerners? Yikes!!!
Having been raised in the Deep South and having kin there, I'll try not to take that personally. :P

Better a sitcom about Southerners than yet another show set in NY or LA that's woefully out of touch with life in the rest of the country...or life in those places for that matter. Ah well, they'll probably screw this one up just as badly.
I agree. Ive been to both LA and NYC, neither of them are anything like what they show in the sitcoms. Funny to say but i think Seinfield got NYC the most realistically.
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Here is for hoping it doesn't end of like HeeHaw in Space.
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Hopefully this will keep him too busy to pursue his hobby of stalking astronauts.
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I can see it now.....

a la the giant foot that stomps down at the end of the opening titles for Monty Python, I see a giant fist coming from right of screen.....
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Here's an article in The Tennessean about it, calling it the "Seinfeld of the South".
Isn't this an oxymoron? Like the "Jeff Foxworthy of Manhattan?"

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Seinfeld-like character: "What about the rocks, the spacesuits, the shadows, the flag?"
Elaine-like character, gesturing with her finger: "Fake, fake, fake, fake."
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I'm glad someone got that joke. That's one of my favorite episodes.
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Picking on the poor guy before the show has even started. At least wait till he's got to the pilot before shooting him down. Shame on you all.
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I'm glad someone got that joke. That's one of my favorite episodes.
And that was a very nicely played referential meta-satire, or whatever literary device it is when you superimpose imagery and conflate content from two sources. Sometimes it just fits together perfectly....almost scary when done right.
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He would be better qualified to make a sitcom that takes place in Area 51. With so many silly rumours around about it, it should be easy to poke lot of fun out of it. Here comes the alien/ufo/conspiracy-of-the-day...
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Picking on the poor guy before the show has even started. At least wait till he's got to the pilot before shooting him down. Shame on you all.
You're right. We should give Sibrel's show the same kind of latitude that we would give to:

Knock, Knock, It's Joseph!

In this heart-warming comedy, Joseph Dzhugashvili regrets his collectivization of the Russian people and elimination of his political enemies, and reminisces about the good old days in Georgia. Music provided courtesy of the Ray Charles estate.

Let's Spike The Punch!

In this heart-warming comedy, Vlad the Impaler decides to give up running through his enemies or anyone else, and instead work to improve the Transylvanian tourist trade. His Italian sidekick continually and hysterically mumbles "Bela, bela..."

Hyper, Schmyper, It's The Reality Show!

In this heart-warming comedy con game show, our game show host is none other than Richard Hoagland! Richard has given up the errors of his past and now will focus only on ideas that are based on factual evidence. The first show will be "Hooked On Phonies" and will feature Bill Kaysing, Ralph Rene, and Bart Sibrel as contestants. The categories the contestants will be quizzed on will be Particle Physics, Observational Astronomy, Differential Equations of the Third Order, and Basic Logic. A good time is guaranteed for all!
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You know if Bart Sibrel's looking for comedic writers, he should really stop by this thread. Some damn funny people on this board!
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I'd imagine it will be real cult winner. Such detachment from reality!
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I'd imagine it will be real cult winner. Such detachment from reality!
Well he's good at fiction.
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The funny thing is tat while many purportedly non fiction and non scripted “reality” shows can appear very artificial and completely unreal, even surreal, much of the purely fictional programming has to have a greater degree of plausibility to the human interactions. I wonder if BS has it in him to produce a fictional series that people can connect with on a weekly basis?
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I see absolutely no reason why Bart Sibrel can't or shouldn't be successful at filmmaking in an entertainment capacity. He clearly has the talent and experience to put together a professional-looking video. In fact, I prefer he confine himself to feature filmmaking because while his production values are high, his command of the facts and his evasion of bias and preconception are nonexistent. Propaganda, which is what he has produced regarding Apollo, is merely fiction dressed up to look like fact.

The problem I see here is that if Sibrel is successful and gains more exposure, he will leverage that success as credibility for his Apollo claims. No amount of success as a filmmaker compensates for ignorance of engineering if one is making a film criticizing an engineering project. He has consistently billed himself as someone who is an "expert at making the fake seem real," and this he touts as a qualification for detecting the fake amid the seemingly real. All that is just a facade for what is really a smear campaign on his part.
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The problem I see here is that if Sibrel is successful and gains more exposure, he will leverage that success as credibility for his Apollo claims
That's where you, and others come in. Exposing his sensationalist nonsense for what it is...nonsense (Hoagland debunked this guy, need I say more?)


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This can also be turned around to read: "expert at making the real seem fake". I strongly believe in the old adage that reads "give a man enough rope, and he will find a way to hang himself with it."

This career change may be a new horizon for him, and I'm sure one or two people will wish him well, but if his show is successful, and he uses his new found fame to propagate his Moon Hoax theories, I'm sure it will blow up in his face. He probably realizes this, but if not, it's going to be fun to watch.
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My first thought: I guess he couldn't quit his day job.

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...but if his show is successful, and he uses his new found fame to propagate his Moon Hoax theories, I'm sure it will blow up in his face. He probably realizes this, but if not, it's going to be fun to watch.
Are you kidding? Sibrel has shown he has no connection to reality. I doubt he expects anything to blow up in his face. If his show succeeds, he most certainly will try to use any credit for that success to bolster his position as a credential for his moon hoax ideas. Having been a cameraman for a local TV station makes him an investigative reporter and filmmaker. Being the creator, writer, director, etc for a successful national TV show would actually be something like a real credential for filmmaking.
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Are you kidding?
Not at all. If B.S. has a successful show, he may be regarded as a master of his craft. If he uses that new found fame to propagate his ideas regarding the moon hoax, he will become a huge target that most debunkers only dream of. He may get a larger audience for his veiws, but that goes both ways. The debunkers would get equal time making him look like an idiot.

I don't really see his show going anywhere based on what I have heard. He will be competing with Blue collar T.V. in the category of "Southern Humor", and that would be a tall order indeed.

There is, of course, the footage of him being beaten up by a 70+ year old man. Not exactly something to brag about if you want anyone to take you seriously.

Hopefully, he is done with the Hoax thing, and has decided to get a "day Job"
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