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Old 01-December-2004, 07:12 AM
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Alan Shepard is the only person to hit a golf ball on the Moon. During the Apollo 14 mission he fitted an 8 iron head to the handle of a lunar sample collection device and launched three golf balls. They are still there!
It was a 6 iron and he used two golf balls.
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... and he used two golf balls.
True, but he took three swings, which is probably where they made their mistake.
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So are the golf balls stil in orbit around the moon?

Did they go in to deep space

Can they be tracked as proof?
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That's pretty funny.
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So are the golf balls stil in orbit around the moon?

Did they go in to deep space

Can they be tracked as proof?
I understand that there's a party of Rick Soble's 'Lunar Inhabitants' still waiting for the shots to come back down, so that they can play through!
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Lunar escape velocity is 2.38 km/s ... anyone who can hit a golf ball hard enough to get within that ballpark would outclass Tiger Woods.

(Yes, I know that you don't need to get the EV for an orbit, but I'm too lazy to do the math)
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Lunar escape velocity is 2.38 km/s ... anyone who can hit a golf ball hard enough to get within that ballpark would outclass Tiger Woods.

(Yes, I know that you don't need to get the EV for an orbit, but I'm too lazy to do the math)
escape velocity = sqrt(2) * orbital velocity. So about 1.68 km/s for an orbit, still a bit much even for Tiger.
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But if you add in the delta-v needed to arrive at a point where orbital velocity can be employed to generate an orbit, you're back up into the 2,000 m/s range.
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For comparison, the hardest hitting pros generate ~170 mph (+/- 10%) using their driver, or about 80 meters per second. Presumably a lot less using a (one handed, I believe) 6 iron in a moon suit.
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Is it true Shepard took a moonigan after his first swing? That should be allowed under lunar winter rules. Of the two balls hit he was probably allowed to call a space shiperio. Mitchell, prior to his photography chores, was attending to the flag.

But, try as he might, Shepard couldn't top Armstrong, who got an Eagle on his first try.

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Is it true Shepard took a moonigan after his first swing? That should be allowed under lunar winter rules. Of the two balls hit he was probably allowed to call a space shiperio. Mitchell, prior to his photography chores, was attending to the flag.

But, try as he might, Shepard couldn't top Armstrong, who got an Eagle on his first try.

He hit the second ball (a "provisional") in case he or his caddy couldn't find his first ball down the Fra Mauro fairway. However, when they went to get into their golf buggy they found they had forgotten to pack it! Darn!

Hence future moon golfers had to ensure they packed the buggy. However, all the rest enjoyed playing around in the buggy too much, and of course collecting souvenirs from around the holes known as "Hadley Rille", "Descartes" and "Taurus-Littrow" that they couldn't be bothered to actually play golf. Those guys were obviously not dedicated enough to the cause.

Next time we will have to ensure we send truly dedicated golfers to gain full benefit from the Moon Course. Don't know what the green (grey???) fees are though. Probably gone up in the last 35 years.

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*has visions of moonwalkers in plaid space suits and collapses laughing*
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It was a 6 iron and he used two golf balls.
Then he held Una's Coke for her and she took her own shot.
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*has visions of moonwalkers in plaid space suits and collapses laughing*
And what about the Plus-fours?!
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One of the good things about lunar golf - no water hazards!
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One of the good things about lunar golf - no water hazards!
But bunkers in all sizes, overlapping. No green. Just grey. And an occasional patch of orange :-)

This always makes me laugh:

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145:36:14 Parker: 17, Houston. We'd like to get the double core here instead of the small can. Double core, please, instead of the small can.

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145:36:24 Schmitt: Did you want it in the orange?

[A chorus of voices in Houston says "Yes".]

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145:36:26 Parker: Roger. That affirm. We can put cores in gray soil all the time.
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Next time we will have to ensure we send truly dedicated golfers to gain full benefit from the Moon Course.
Assuming it stays a standard par 70/72 course, what's the total yardage on that one? (I hear that 4236 yard par-3 first hole is a tough one)

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Don't know what the green (grey???) fees are though. Probably gone up in the last 35 years.
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