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Go here if you dare:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com Check out the forums. Very strident, these people are! Regards, tbm |
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I couldn't find this anywhere. But if you got money, and are willing to try...
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Although maybe thats not his purpose. Maybe it's just a cover story. |
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Regards, tbm |
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No normal airliners play games like that.
Do you have any qualifications in air navigation or airline operations to back that statement up?
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I challenge anyone to find a big X contrail. Just one. Only chemtrails appear as Xs! Wait. I see an X. There's another one. Another. Oh, sorry.
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We have big Xs in the sky most days where I live, the aircraft flying North, South from Newcastle and Teesside airports leave Contrails and aircraft coming in off the North Sea East/West leave Contrails above them, what's the mystery, if the winds right we get grid patterns.
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Some planes go east, some north. Some go south, some west (the AUDACITY!).
Chances are that some of these paths will cross. Voila! Big Xs in the sky. Big Whoop! Ya gotta have too much time on your hands to make a conspiracy out of stuff like this. Regards, tbm |
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Or are you saying that the crossing contrails I've seen must be "chemtrails"? Which, as I've pointed out before, would be an utterly ineffective way of applying any kind of agent to people on the ground? |
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Oh... wait... evidence... :-k 8) |
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A simple NO would have sufficed. And would have been far more honest. I've watched the skies for many years. I've lived in this county for decades. As have I on both. I also am a pilot with a great deal of training in Aviation and Meteorolgy. I have yet to see anything that would smack of people "playing games" as you so mysteriously put it. I know what's normal, and what's not. Without knowledge of either Air Navigation or Aviation Operations, how can you possibly make this statement? What specific evidence do you have that "games" are being played? No links to woo woo sites please. Tell us in your own words. Vague statements of oddness will not cut it. Be specific, and then provide the scientific explanations which would show that these trails are anything other then meterologically normal phenomena.
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Here's some to give the ChemTrailers a field day:
![]() ![]() ![]() Now say that this was taken at the day of JFK's assassination, and you're solid for some weeks (these are just B-52's taking off. The enormous amount of smoke is due to water cooling of the chamber and turbine to allow for full thrust settings without damaging the engine. The steam and smoke add to huge black/brown plumes during take off. Not healthy, but still just 1950's engine smoke! )
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Then they call us nuts even though we know the truth!! 8-[ T H E___T R U T H___I S___O U T___T H E R E 8) |
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Those photos look the same as B-52s always have, from the 1950s to today. Just as with all other exhaust streams and contrails, which look (and are) the same as they have been for over half a century, Great BUFF photos, BTW! =D>
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Some more links in Chemtrails believers. Here are some of their claims:
There is a strong possibility that Labour is allowing USAF KC-135R tanker planes to spray pure white chemical fibres across the UK either for military radar purposes or for weather modification, due to the thinning ozone layer, and the increasing level of co2 in our atmosphere. This Toronto website should give you evidence about the same thing happening in Canada: http://www.airapparent.ca/ This to convince the tinfoil hat skeptics, they say: http://www.weatherwars.info/ If USAF planes are spraying fibres for ANY reason, just imagine all the extra unnecessary Co2 is being put up there whilst they are doing this. http://www.phenomenamagazine.com/0/e...mp;obj_id=1821 These are some of the most "horrendous" pictures of it: http://www.chemtrails-france.com/ |
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A reminder that airliners have been making X's in the sky for a long time.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/094277/M/ Airliners navigate via radio beacons, and GPS waypoint. As they cross over these beacons or waypoints from different directions, you will get X's and asterisks, and wagon wheels, etc. In addition to the fact that they cross paths all the time anyway. It's hard to fathom how anyone can think contrails would not form patterns in the sky. You get bunches of them in parallel rows because lots of planes fly the same airways, and the wind makes the trails drift. |
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Bluestar, have you ordered and read this publication yet? Once you know how to use a baloney detector, you might not have the need to post such things as this.
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Personally I'm becoming convinced that the chemtrail conspiracy was origginally contrived as an experiment to see just how ridiculous a theory could be made, and still be believed by a large number of poeple.
Latest I hear is that TS Arlene was killled by chemtrails :roll: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread8607.html The trouble is, you can never convince the believers. The fact is, contrails do sometimes fan out into cirrostratus. And sometimes they don't. People don't notice how many aircraft fly over their houses, until one day contrails linger longer than usual due to the atmospheric conditions. Other varieties of cirrus cloud do appear from time to time. And weather is, by it's very nature, unpredictable. You say tomarto, I say tomato, you say chemtrail I say nature....... |
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Here's a few of my own (although I feel I may be leaving myself wide open)
1. What is so important (or to what end) that they would have to do this in the first place? 2. Why aren't the people who are "in the know" affected? 3. Density - let's say 1 part per Billion in the lower 10 miles of atmospheres: (Volume of earth + 10 mile radius) - volume of earth = About 2 billion cubic miles. 2 cubic miles of material is one heck of a lot of stuff to put on airplanes. 3a. How long does it stay in the air? Quote:
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...And there really are aircraft that are used to attempt to modify the weather. They really do dump chemicals of various kinds into storm clouds in an effort to either cause rain or weaken storms (sometimes both together). That's not to say that those methods really work, but they are being tried... on rather rare occasions, though. I'm not aware of any attempts to modify "Arlene." Then there's chaff.... But, to the best of my knowledge, all the trails you see in the sky are contrails. I noticed that weatherman714 (in the forum linked in the O.P. of this thread) listed the conditions under which contrails can form. I don't believe they're correct. There's no reason contrails couldn't form in warmer conditions. He also gave altitudes determined via thermal IR satellite imagery and radiosonde observations. Doesn't work. Thin clouds/contrails would appear to be lower than thick ones at the same altitude. The direct comparison of IR/radiosonde doesn't work, either, since the "temperature" given in IR imagery is based on a "black body," which water is not. It's approximate, yes, but not exact enough to use reliably, especially with a relatively thin cloud.
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Chemtrailers? Were those 5000 or 10000 gallon models? Dual or single axle?...but I digress...
Chemtrailers believe that the stuff being 'sprayed' affects the health. After seeing Nicolas's pictures, I would believe it...90 BUFFs launched in 90 minutes, wait 90 minutes, launch 90 more...ya coulda cut the smoke with a knife...when the last raider took off from Guam that December day, we'd put so much armament in the air the north end of the island came another ten feet out of the water... Linebacker II they called it... ...memories...
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I think the Chemtrailers are active in N.E. Ohio :roll: ... They take off from a local airport
Officials Investigate Appearance Of Mysterious Spots http://www.newsnet5.com/news/4608361/detail.html Quote:
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My apologies in advance to everyone that reads this, and to John Stewart, and the Monkees, and Maksutov:
To the tune of "Daydream Believer" --- Oh, they can spray from the wings Of the big gray flying things. At sixteen thousand feet they can be seen. Making rings in the skies, Leaving trails before our eyes. His ready cam'ra's aimed at those rings. Cheer up, Everyone. But, what can they mean? To a Chemtrail Believer And the trails that he's seen? We once thought they'd be Finding white clouds they could seed. Now you know how frightened we can be. Oh, and the contrails start and end Without taking time to bend. So we know, don't we, what we really see! Cheer up, Everyone. But, what can they mean? To a Chemtrail Believer And the trails that he's seen? [repeat several times and eventually fade]
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