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Old 01-June-2005, 05:23 PM
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Go here if you dare:

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com

Check out the forums. Very strident, these people are!

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Default Help me debunk the CHEMTRAILS belivers...!!!!

I couldn't find this anywhere. But if you got money, and are willing to try...
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A Florida businessman who claims he once made a thundercloud disappear from Doppler radar says he can take the fury out of hurricanes, too.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=35733

Although maybe thats not his purpose. Maybe it's just a cover story.
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The thing is,Im not realy sure what they meen...are we talking normal airplan traces in the sky?? 8-[
No. They are not normal.
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The thing is,Im not realy sure what they meen...are we talking normal airplan traces in the sky?? 8-[
No. They are not normal.

Compared to engine and wingtip contrails...!!?
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http://www.chemtrailcentral.com

Check out the forums. Very strident, these people are!

Regards, tbm
Hmmm. I think I've been banned from there. (No warning. No statement on the MB. One day I was unable to post. No response to e-mails asking if I had been banned or if there was a technical problem. End of story.)
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Go here if you dare:

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com

Check out the forums. Very strident, these people are!

Regards, tbm
Hmmm. I think I've been banned from there. (No warning. No statement on the MB. One day I was unable to post. No response to e-mails asking if I had been banned or if there was a technical problem. End of story.)
I have noticed that they are VERY thin-skinned and treat skeptics very rudely If you posted ANYTHING that was, "unflattering" or didn't follow the woo line, you for sure was banned.

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The thing is,Im not realy sure what they meen...are we talking normal airplan traces in the sky?? 8-[
No. They are not normal.

Compared to engine and wingtip contrails...!!?
It's not only what they are spraying on us. It's also the stupid way they do it. Big Xs in the sky. No normal airliners play games like that.
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The thing is,Im not realy sure what they meen...are we talking normal airplan traces in the sky?? 8-[
No. They are not normal.

Compared to engine and wingtip contrails...!!?
It's not only what they are spraying on us. It's also the stupid way they do it. Big Xs in the sky. No normal airliners play games like that.
Of course, the notion that aircraft tracks may cross over, never occurs to them.
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No normal airliners play games like that.

Do you have any qualifications in air navigation or airline operations to back that statement up?
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It's not only what they are spraying on us. It's also the stupid way they do it. Big Xs in the sky. No normal airliners play games like that.
Yep. There are no big Xs in the sky in this picture of normal airliner contrails.

I challenge anyone to find a big X contrail. Just one.

Only chemtrails appear as Xs!

Wait. I see an X. There's another one. Another. Oh, sorry.
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No normal airliners play games like that.

Do you have any qualifications in air navigation or airline operations to back that statement up?
I've watched the skies for many years. I've lived in this county for decades. I know what's normal, and what's not. Some days someone is playing games.
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We have big Xs in the sky most days where I live, the aircraft flying North, South from Newcastle and Teesside airports leave Contrails and aircraft coming in off the North Sea East/West leave Contrails above them, what's the mystery, if the winds right we get grid patterns.
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Some planes go east, some north. Some go south, some west (the AUDACITY!).

Chances are that some of these paths will cross. Voila! Big Xs in the sky.

Big Whoop!

Ya gotta have too much time on your hands to make a conspiracy out of stuff like this.

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I've watched the skies for many years. I've lived in this county for decades. I know what's normal, and what's not. Some days someone is playing games.
Can you give examples of what isn't normal?
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No normal airliners play games like that.

Do you have any qualifications in air navigation or airline operations to back that statement up?
I've watched the skies for many years. I've lived in this county for decades. I know what's normal, and what's not. Some days someone is playing games.
Well, I've seen crossing contrails for as long as I remember. They're quite normal, so I disagree that in this case you know what's "normal". Are you at all familiar with how jetliner traffic is routed in the U.S.?

Or are you saying that the crossing contrails I've seen must be "chemtrails"? Which, as I've pointed out before, would be an utterly ineffective way of applying any kind of agent to people on the ground?
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It's not only what they are spraying on us. It's also the stupid way they do it. Big Xs in the sky. No normal airliners play games like that.
Yep. There are no big Xs in the sky in this picture of normal airliner contrails.

I challenge anyone to find a big X contrail. Just one.

Only chemtrails appear as Xs!

Wait. I see an X. There's another one. Another. Oh, sorry.
So!! You show your true stripes... YOU are one of THEM!!!

Oh... wait... evidence... :-k

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Junkyardfrog

A simple NO would have sufficed. And would have been far more honest.

I've watched the skies for many years. I've lived in this county for decades.
As have I on both. I also am a pilot with a great deal of training in Aviation and Meteorolgy. I have yet to see anything that would smack of people "playing games" as you so mysteriously put it.

I know what's normal, and what's not.
Without knowledge of either Air Navigation or Aviation Operations, how can you possibly make this statement?

What specific evidence do you have that "games" are being played? No links to woo woo sites please. Tell us in your own words. Vague statements of oddness will not cut it. Be specific, and then provide the scientific explanations which would show that these trails are anything other then meterologically normal phenomena.
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Here's some to give the ChemTrailers a field day:





Now say that this was taken at the day of JFK's assassination, and you're solid for some weeks

(these are just B-52's taking off. The enormous amount of smoke is due to water cooling of the chamber and turbine to allow for full thrust settings without damaging the engine. The steam and smoke add to huge black/brown plumes during take off. Not healthy, but still just 1950's engine smoke! )
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(these are just B-52's taking off. The enormous amount of smoke is due to water cooling of the chamber and turbine to allow for full thrust settings without damaging the engine. The steam and smoke add to huge black/brown plumes during take off. Not healthy, but still just 1950's engine smoke! )
Of course those are contrails... but that's how they do it... they hide the chemtrails among all the harmless contrails... [-(

Then they call us nuts even though we know the truth!! 8-[

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