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Old 29-July-2002, 05:56 PM
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Check out the Apollo Image Archive by Paul Spurdis (LPI):

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apo...log/index.html

You get to see ALL images from Apollo 13 to Apollo 17 organized magazine by magazine - and as thumbnails side by side in numerical order.

"Apollo 70mm Image Catalog

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Apollo 4 - 1 Magazine - 713 Images
Apollo 6 - 1 Magazine - 375 Images
Apollo 7 - 9 Magazines - 508 Images
Apollo 8 - 7 Magazines - 855 Images
Apollo 9 - 11 Magazines - 1373 Images
Apollo 10 - 9 Magazines - 1433 Images
Apollo 11 - 10 Magazines - 1396 Images
Apollo 12 - 15 Magazines - 2132 Images
Apollo 13 - 5 Magazines - 584 Images
Apollo 14 - 14 Magazines - 1336 Images
Apollo 15 - 19 Magazines - 2640 Images
Apollo 16 - 22 Magazines - 2801 Images
Apollo 17 - 23 Magazines - 3581 Images "


There are - so far - only links to the images from Apollo 13 to Apollo 17 - but you get to see all the images: The Good, The Bad and The Really Ugly.

The URL once again:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apo...log/index.html


PS: One often hear the HBs talk about "thousands of perfectly composed pictures".

Yeah, right. "Perfectly composed" like this one (AS14-64-9131):





It´s a picture of Ed Mitchell mooning the Hoax Believers ! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]



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Old 29-July-2002, 06:44 PM
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And here are some pictures of "headless astronauts". That´s hardly, what anyone would call "perfect composition", is it ??

These pictures are from Apollo 15:

AS15-85-11500




AS15-85-11527




AS15-85-11419




AS15-85-11410




PLUS - When you browse through the pictures, you will notice that there are quite a few "lens flares" !!!!

PLUS - The above pictures are just a few of the "less than perfect" pictures from ONE SINGLE magazine !!!

The URL to the Paul Spurdis archieve one more time:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apo...log/index.html



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Old 29-July-2002, 06:57 PM
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Ohh, what a wedgie he must have. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]

Man, this nice. It's the most complete archive I've seen yet. I just got done downloading the entire ALSJ collection, and now it looks like I have more work to do. Maybe I'll just put it off for a while. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

I wonder when they'll get the rest of the series put up. In particular I have an Apollo 11 pic I want to match but I haven't been able to locate yet (I do know the general location of it within the series however).
And I wonder, the quality doesn't seem to be too high overall, are these new scans, or are they older ones that are just being put up for the first time?
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Old 29-July-2002, 07:05 PM
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From http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apo...ocessing.html:

"Scanning And Image Processing

Background Information on the Production of the Images used in the Apollo (Handheld/Still) Imagery Catalog

This catalog was created using a set of images received from the NASA Johnson Space Center. The images were created as follows:

The Apollo film was scanned using a video camera, with a resolution of over 700 lines, to create a digital file.
Each frame was digitized as a 24 bit color image at 756 x 486 pixels, producing a file of approximately 1.1 megabytes in Targa format.
The Targa images were then processed to produce a 640 x 480 image at 72 ppi in JPEG (JPG) format. These images were also (significantly) compressed, reducing the final file size to about 40 kilobytes on average.

These images were further processed by the LPI as follows:

They were cropped to match the original proportions of the image on the original film. This also had the effect of removing some of the curved edges introduced in the original scanning process.
The images then received some "color" processing. This was done because the aging of the film had altered the original colors captured when the film was exposed. In the case of the images on black and white film, the "color shifting" was removed by grayscaling the images. For the images on color film, a generic color processing formula, arrived at by tweaking representative images by hand, was applied in an attempt to shift them back closer to their original colors.
The resulting images were then saved again in JPEG format, with a small amount of compression, at 450 x 450 pixels to create the browse images and at 120 x 120 pixels to create the thumbnail images used in the catalog.

Because of all this processing, these catalog images should not be used for research purposes. They should only be used to select and identify images for use in a research project. Higher resolution products should be obtained for use in any scientific investigation(s)."


http://www.lpi.usra.edu/research/apollo/processing.html



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Old 29-July-2002, 07:19 PM
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Just to pile on to the HB community that not every picture taken is perfect – check out AS13-61-8748 thru 8812 – a series of 64 photos taken of the moon through the window on the way back to earth - only one has the moon close to being centered in the frame!

All in All a great resource – Thanks Fly Me To The Moon.

Can’t wait for Apollo’s 8 thru 12.
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Fly Me to the Moon...how appropriate your name is. This is a fantastic site. I'll be here for years. A little hint...go to the main page and select slide show and set it for 1/4 second (or whatever is your personal preference, I'm always in a hurry) and just sit back and enjoy. Thanks, Fly Me to The Moon.

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Old 25-September-2002, 01:00 AM
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The Apollo 11 archive is now up.
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I'm sure that ICU is going to get a lot of mileage out of the Apollo 11 archive, especially after looking at the pictures of the LM prior to landing and after take-off.
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I'm sure that ICU is going to get a lot of mileage out of the Apollo 11 archive, especially after looking at the pictures of the LM prior to landing and after take-off.
Already I have a slight problem with this site. In reference to Apollo 11 they state:

"The Apollo 11 mission carried four 70MM cameras. There were a total of 1407 exposures made on 9 magazines of film; 857 images on black & white film and 550 on color film."

And they go on to list the 9 magazine numbers from 36-44.

But ALSJ makes refernce to a photo from magazine '33' AS11-33-5404.

Apparently there are more than 9 magazines from Apollo 11. Or ALSJ is mistaken, which would be a first to my knowledge.

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On 2002-09-25 05:50, Ian R wrote:
I'm sure that ICU is going to get a lot of mileage out of the Apollo 11 archive, especially after looking at the pictures of the LM prior to landing and after take-off.
Already I have a slight problem with this site. In reference to Apollo 11 they state:

"The Apollo 11 mission carried four 70MM cameras. There were a total of 1407 exposures made on 9 magazines of film; 857 images on black & white film and 550 on color film."

And they go on to list the 9 magazine numbers from 36-44.

But ALSJ makes refernce to a photo from magazine '33' AS11-33-5404.

Apparently there are more than 9 magazines from Apollo 11. Or ALSJ is mistaken, which would be a first to my knowledge.

The photo id is actually AS11-36-5404. You may recognize, that numbers of images don't restart at zero or so for every magazine, but are consecutively numbered, thus giving a double-check and helps in spotting mismatches.
I'll forward this to Eric and as I don't know your real name, you may write him too so he can give you credit for this. His address is honais@austarnet.com.au

Checking Kipp Teague's Apollo Archive, it seems he is to blame for the bug, not Eric. Kipp is usually doing most of the image scanning and Eric adds them to the ALSJ. And the id is already wrong in the Archive.
So, I also will forward this to Kipp.

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What does ALSJ stand for? Apollo Lunar SURFACE Journal.

Also, if Eric doesnt have the images at hand, he can't upload them. Pictures are added whenever Eric gets his hands on them.

But primarily ALSJ is about the surface EVAs, not orbit photography.
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What does ALSJ stand for? Apollo Lunar SURFACE Journal.

Also, if Eric doesnt have the images at hand, he can't upload them. Pictures are added whenever Eric gets his hands on them.

But primarily ALSJ is about the surface EVAs, not orbit photography.
What does this mean? Are you critizing Mr. Jones for displaying orbital photos while having the word 'surface' on his webpage or am I missing something?
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Just as a side note, Paul Spudis (not Spurdis) has written a book called "The Once and Future Moon." Not the best book on lunar geology, but still a pretty good book.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...lance&n=507846
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What are some good books on lunar geology?
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Many of the images appear to be reference photos. Most of the images have no sign of human activity. Not the sort of thing a hoax perpetrator would be interested in.

Many others are just plain bad photos. See AS16-105-17188 from Magazine M on Apollo 16.
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What are some good books on lunar geology?
David Harland's "Exploring the Moon" is pretty good with this and also Don E. Wilhelms "To a Rocky Moon : A Geologist's History of Lunar Exploration" is usually mentioned when this question comes up. The second (I've not read it yet) seems to be a real "rock" book and it's good when you already have some background - which you can get by reading David's book first.

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These are awesome... NASA should have released these with the others. Even the screwed up shots are pretty amazing. The ones with off lighting actually carry across the desolate feeling of the moon better than the ones we commonly see. And these are some of the best Earth shots I've seen. I can't wait for Apollo 7 myself.

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Old 27-September-2002, 07:25 PM
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Another good geology book is Moon Morphology by Peter Schultz. It is a collection of Lunar Orbiter Photographs. It pops up every once in a while on ebay for around 30-40$.
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Old 27-September-2002, 08:52 PM
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Thanks for the book suggestions. I didn't know about the Moon Morphology book. I hope it is available for around $40. Most used bookstores have it for $100 to $250.

I have Harland's Exploring the Moon, but haven't read it yet. His Jupiter Odyssey covered the geology of the Jovian moons very thoroughly.

I have and have read and enjoyed To a Rocky Moon and The Once and Future Moon. I also have Thomas Mutch's excellent Geology of the Moon, which I think you can find pretty cheap.

Other lunar geology books worth mentioning are the Lunar Sourcebook and the Preliminary Science Reports, which are now online at ALSJ. I bought the Apollo 15 and 17 ones back in the early 80s for around $8 a piece. I want to kick myself for not ordering them for all the missions.
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