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Old 14-June-2005, 10:16 AM
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The public broadcasting station ZDF is tomorrow airing the Discovery docu about the moonlanding conspiracy, featuring Jay:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/einzelsendun...508571,00.html

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The public broadcasting station ZDF is tomorrow airing the Discovery docu about the moonlanding conspiracy, featuring Jay:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/einzelsendun...508571,00.html

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Thanks for the Info.

My VCR is ready.
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Just watched it. I was fuming everytime Kaysing et al were on screen.

Those old fogeys blabbing about stuff they don't have an even tenuous grasp of was excruciating.

The commentary didn't exactly help, as the writers obviously felt the need to present a "balanced" portrait of the issue. I found it particularly galling, that all through the documentary, Kaysing was referred to as the "skeptic"...
Critical thinking my butt.

One nice touch were the interview snippets with astronaut Oberg, sitting at his desk, and the BABB open on his computer screen.
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Jim wasn't an astronaut, he was a flight controller. http://www.jamesoberg.com/

Kaysing and Rene came nicely over as some silly crackpots. When sticking some rubber glove into a box you evacuate and can't move your fingers in this and take this as proof that pressure suits didn't work, well, then give me three days to built a combustion engine and I'll proof that combustion engines are a fake because mine doesn't works.

I was not too happy with a few commentarys, but maybe that was the German voice over.
Also, the movie had the usual mixup of film and sound snippets. When talking about listening to the lunar landing at Jodrell Bank, they run launch soundbites in the background. And when they talk about the flight, we see what I think was Al Shepard in the CM. And so on.
But the movie also made some points without mentioning them. When that prop astronaut walked around in the dessert, he always kicked up billowing dust clouds that were blown away by the wind. You don't see this in the real Apollo footage. And the flag was always moving, always.
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You could see the dust flying in some of the lunar footage. I remember reading about the parabolic arc it should describe, and there it was.
Flat, about two feet long, and definitely parabolic. No eddies, no billowing, like on the desert shots.

I also felt that they got hung up on the flag bit for too long. And the leafblower bit about the missing landing crater stuff made me wince.
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