Ok, now I've heard everything! This one's a doozie! Rense's site cracks me up!

edit: Take a look at the poster's home site.

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Yikes

I've found that just as soon as I say that, something even more outragous comes up...and I have to say it again.

But yeah, that is pretty "wacky".

My personal favorite is this guy's "rock-mobile" (or whatever you want to call it.)

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Yikes, is right. The conclusions this fellow arrives at via this dubious analysis is amazing. How about this:

Just how does he *know* this?

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I like this logic:

Well, you got me there...

I hate pages where you have to scroll sideways. grrrrrr . . . .

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Well, I don't know what to say!...

The above is from the Tracy's Rock "analysis" ..... now, being an engineer I have an idea what "advanced deterioration" of any machinery might look like, and what is shown there is not it!

To me it looks like a large set of boulders roughly four times the size of an Asian Elephant, with some dust lying on various flat and sloping surfaces. Dust that was probably thrown up into a parabolic arc (no atmosphere....) by an impacting asteroid at some point in the past history of the moon.

How all that "piece of machinery" stuff is percieved I cannot fathom.

I have seen another website which uses exactly the same boulders and tries to show it is a long dead fossil of some long dead giant trilobyte like creature....

HB theories are alive and well (??) and are a bit like an arcade game I saw, where you had a mallet, and had to smash crocs (plastic ones!) on the snout as they came out towards you. As soon as you hit one it hid, but another (random) one comes forward. Eventually it all happens so quick you can't keep up..... #-o

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Are we alone in the Universe? Are we the only intelligent life? Who knows? But the universe is so BIG, it somehow seems such a waste of space if we are ....

It's just more woowoo pareidolia.

In the website attached to this bulletin board, Phil discusses this in detail.

The leading exponent of uncritical acceptance of pareidolia as hard evidence is a fellow named Hoagland. Check out his "Machinery Found at Spirit Landing Site" page.

Remember, this is the guy who thought he should be the next NASA administrator. :roll:

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His first comparison of helmets does raise some questions indeed, but the fact that his mosaic underneath that one clearly shows how the helmet has sun blocking faces that can be slid up makes you wonder how it is possible that someone who takes the time to make the mosaic doesn't notice that (or doesn't want to notice it...)

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Looking at the helmet collage - I see distinct differences between the astronaut helmets and the helmet of what I will call the eccentric. My view is the visor/position explanation does not account for the differences. This does not appear to be one of our astronauts. I got some input from several other people on this that had the same opinion.

Welcome to the board.

Are you aware of the structure of the Apollo 17 LEVA? There are two sliding side eyeshades, a sliding center eyeshade (with an independent viewport door which can be fully down or opened up as required) and two movable visors which are normally lowered all the way down but can be raised to provide better visibility in certain conditions.

All of the images on the linked page can be explained by various configurations of the LEVA. In the image on AS17-137-20900, the side eyeshade is almost all the way down, the viewport door in the center eyeshade is raised quite high, and the reflective visor is all the way down.

My two cents (what I see):

It seems to me that the astronought is looking upwards, towards the picture taker. Thus the helmet is showing more glass and less helmet.

There is some flap that is pointing up on the right-side picture, which helps make ity look different.

At a point about halfway along the side of the astronoughts jaw, there is a thing that looks like a tab - it's on both pictures.

You can even see the chest mounted camera. On the top of the camera (the horizontal surface) near the front (towards where the lens is) there is an orange bar. Perhaps an instruction label? It's on both pictures.

Yikes. This guy thinks an Alien is more likely?

Cheers,

ajv – Thanks for the welcome. I did check out your Apollo 17 LEVA link along with looking through some of the Apollo photography in the last couple of days. The LEVA positioning should be the answer to this. Do you know of any Apollo frames showing the LEVA configuration on one of the astronauts as is seen in AS17-137-20900?

I pulled the web address off a couple of the pictures in the Rense post. Below is the smaller split image. And here is the link to the helmet collage-http://www.lunararcheology.org/post/Helmetdif.jpg

More LEVA info: http://www.myspacemuseum.com/leva.htm

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Do you know of any Apollo frames showing the LEVA configuration on one of the astronauts as is seen in AS17-137-20900?
The page Harald linked to includes AS17-134-20472 which has Schmitt with his center eyeshade pulled quite far down, the viewport door opened, and his reflective visor all the way down. The side eyeshade is fully up.

This matches the configuration in AS17-137-20900 quite closely. The center eyeshade in 20472 has been pulled out more than in 20900 and the viewport door is probably the same but the side eyeshade position could be different.

However, when I wrote my earlier reply I thought the side eyeshade was down in 20900 but looking at it again I think it is raised and we can see the edge of the side cover of the LEVA. That would mean that 20472 and 20900 are actually quite similar configurations.