Has anyone seen this one before?

It's by the famous Dr. Beter (no first name). It is another piece of evidence that supports my view that any article that contains phrases such as "My friends", "NASA COVERUP", and paragraphs such as these

have the credibility of a used (or new) A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon video salesman.

Nevertheless, reading this was worth it for the good chuckles the material provided. As you can see, "they" were at it even back then. And, always remember

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Personally I think the guy was smoking something without a tax stamp, but he may just not know how absurd his claims are.

I agree. It's got to be one of the earliest Shuttle-related conspiracy (a rather rara avis itself) rants I've run into. Most of the anti-Shuttle literature back then focused on how unsafe the design was or how expensive the program was, rather than it being part of a military-industrial complex plot.

One wonders if Young and Crippen ever contacted "Dr. Beter" and quoted Mark Twain to him... 8)

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I think this guy is a prime example or High Wierdness by Mail, making it into the computer age......I am not sure just what the conspiracy is, but I guess it is his ideas and maybe they are self-justifying or something like that......Bosheveks plotting against the USSR and replacing the Rockefellers with NASA????

Dale in Ala

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Good point, Maksutov.

I can't recall seeing an earlier shuttle conspiracy rant, or a sillier one now that I think of it.

I am sure the average reader knows how shadows are in space. Either that or this guy expected his readers to take his word for it. Does wind soften and diffuse shadows, too?

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In a debunking mood? Check this site: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54

You will always find conspiracies there. Open an account and expose them. But careful, they may call you a 'government sheep".

oooookay.

I must admit I didn't read it all, but from just the prt I did it seems to me that the guy hs no understanding of the dhuttle program, including that Mission Control doesn't control the launch. The Launch is controlled by those on the ground in KSC and the reason the voice "mysteriously" changes after they cleared the tower is because that is when the Launch Control at KSC hand off control over Mission Control in Houston.

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The horror! It's "They" Again Is there nothing "they" aren't involved in? How insidious!

Always remember:

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Umm..... What about all the people watching from the ground not only near the launch pad but all across peninsular Florida who could easily see the liftoff from their homes. I guess NASA sent out their neuralizer-equipped goon squad to take care of any embarassing memories. Or maybe they did the simple thing and offed every potential witness. Of all the shuttle launches, the first one had the most intense public interest and probably the most eye witnesses.

ETA: Opps. Never mind. I just read the rest of the conspiracy and the fantasy doesn't actually begin until the shuttle reached orbit.

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What? No mention of Drax Industries? I'm disappointed.

OK....I've though about this some more

In order for the video feed switcher-oo thing to work, wouldn't the sky have to be a flat pristine blue with no clouds on both feeds? If someone were to switch feeds from a shuttle launch on a moderately cloudy day to a feed with no clouds, wouldn't someone notice the sudden change in weather? Since NASA announces launches well in advance, wouldn't it require a lot of dumb luck for weather on actual launch day to match the day of the "phoney" ascent? Also, why take the risk of switching feeds in the first place if his contention is that both the real and phoney shuttle launches reached orbit. Why not just show the actual launch live and then phoney the orbits and scientific mission plan in a studio.

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Since the government controls the weather, that's not an issue. Too clear? make it cloudier. Not clear enough? make it worse so the launch is scrubbed.

I like the genetic replica astronaut stuff. That's original.

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I am tempted to have fun with that one.

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Don't go getting apostolic on us now. That would be, well, rather fishy.

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Or he may share a first name with our 37th President.

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I don't think they make a tax stamp for the stuff this guy's on.

Ok guys. I confess. I helped Glushko design the "superheavy Cosmospheres," because I was tired of Ford and Carter not giving me my big rockets.

If you don't quit launching those miserable little Delta II sounding rockets, I am afraid that I will have to instigate the "Battle of Goldin's Shorts."

You have been warned.

I also have the inside dope on the REAL history of X-33
http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1563

It looks almost like I had one person fooled.

Bad news:
There is sad news in the 2006 Farmer's Almanac. A Harris Interactive poll (page 154) ranked many vocations according to their prestige power. Here are the percentages:

Scientist...................57
Fireman....................55
Doctor.....................52
Teacher...................49
Nurse.......................47
Military Officer...........46
Police Officer.............42
Priest/clergy..............38
Member of Congress....30

And bringing up the rear:
Engineer...................28

No wonder that Fake Space Tourist TV program has such an easy time punking folks:
a "reality" show that fools people into thinking they are going to space..
Space Cadets


Even more sad to me is how even the Science Channel treats rocketry. There is a program that comes on 7am Eastern 6am Central called "Rockets Into Space." It has good footage of launches from the past and seldom seen footage of payloads. I guess that is good for kids to wake up to but it needs to come on a bit later--and needs to be in Prime Time.

I get Charter Cable here in Alabama, where the information given about the program in the TV listing bar is:

"Rockets Into Space: Sports. Non-event"

Lovely...

What I find weird is that scientist got 57% for prestige, but engineers got 28%. Apparently applying science takes all the glam out of it.

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