I recorded all 3 hours of the Art Bell episode with Marcus Allen. The file is about 43 MB in MP3 format and is good listening quality as far as spoken word recordings go. The raw WAV file was nearly a gigabyte LOL. I converted it to MP3 at the lowest bitrate it would allow, 32 kbps to get it down to a far more manageable file size (32 kbps sounds horrible for music but is plenty for spoken word).
I could upload it to you if you want. My cable connection is capped at 128 Kb/s up so it would take maybe an hour. I assume that you have access to my email address from when I registered to the site. So if you want me to upload the file to you email me with the details on how you want me to proceed. You can then make the file available to other BA members in whatever way you see fit. If for some reason you don't have my email address then let me know and I will email you.

<a name="2-11-28.AS"> page 2-11-28.AS aka Audio ? Sterio
2-11-28 3:55 A.M. pst anyway I guess this marks the beginning
HERES my version.. I weent to PMUG {a Mac User Gr}
and noted that the sound recording Icon was Dragged & dropped
Hmm? anyway what I gather from "THAT" was this
Dos & Mac will have very different SOLUTIONS
to the Audio Spectrum of the web sequence of
TEXT / GUI / AUDIO / HUb's Flubs etc
1? ok so MP3 from wave PROGRAM for DOS ={fill in}
and the 360K portion of this Audio clip about radation = ?hr.min?

<a name="2-11-28.RF"> page 2-11-28.RF aka RoughF
On 2002-11-28 06:55, HUb' wrote: To? HUb'
YEAH, yeah somewhere? maybe on the 386 ???
i have the zaps.wav of the Leonides hits
off the AM radio clipped down to just the
one second ZZaappstst.. themselves ?? hmm?
well maybe they are here on the 486
anway i see some are 11ok bytes and
the one second one looks like about
30K
So yeah any help translating 30K.wav'E$ into
thread beding A_&__D___priciated HUb'
November 28, 2002 4:11 A.M. PST {BWUW}

Thanks, CR! I am not sure how to proceed here. I have looked all over the Art Bell website and found no reference to copyrights and distributing recordings; in fact, there is a page talking about how to record the program! On that page I didn't see any mention of restrictions.

Do you have a tape of it, or did you record it directly to your computer?

I cannot distribute it via my website, because the bandwidth would kill me (I am already way over my limit!). I would be happy to pay you back if you burn a CD and send it to me! Otherwise I don't think there's much I can do.

Yeah, it is saved directly to my computer. If you have AIM or Yahoo! Messenger I could send it to you. It would take maybe an hour to transfer. You could just go about your business and come back in an hour and it would be done. If you prefer I send it on a CD that is not a problem. I could send it out tomorrow. I just need an address to mail it to. Email me or leave an offline Yahoo messenger message to the name judgecoltandhisjuryofsix.

This is completely and totally off topic...but...

"Cigarette Repairman" and "Judge Colt and His Jury of Six" are both REALLY COOL NAMES! I admire your creativity and imagination!

Silas

Cigman, would 43MB fit into the 'Files' section on the BA's Yahoo group? Could it be split into 2 and two phoney groups be created just for this task? Just a thought...

Thanks Silas, I have had the Yahoo ID of JudgeColtAndHisJuryOfSix for quite some time. In the chat room that I am a regular in it started quite a trend in fact. At last count there were about 20 other regulars that had names that were a variation on my JudgeColt name. The CigaretteRepairman name came from a long time ago when I left a pack of cigarettes on the seat of my truck and I sat down on them accidentally. Several of them got broken and I was kind of irritated given the high cost of cigarettes (not as much as they are now..time to quit I guess LOL). My friend said to me, "It looks like you need to call the cigarette repairman." I got quite a kick out of it anyway.

And JohnWitts, I looked into the Yahoo groups thing. The "files" section has a limit of 20 MB. The biggest problem however is that you are limited to 5 MB per upload. So the file would have to be split about 9 times and you would need to create at least 3 groups. John, if you have a connection faster than dial-up I can upload it directly to you through Yahoo Messenger or through AIM. Just PM me through the name judgecoltandhisjuryofsix on Yahoo Messenger. If I am not online just leave an offline message. The same goes for anyone else who would like to have a copy of the file. If I send it to a few people and you all send it to a few people it should be able to get around alright.

I'll have to get Yahoo Messenger then...

Yes, I do have a (fairly) fast connection. I was more wondering about how you would get the file to the BA. I've not had much success with file transfers with my machine. It's a bit duff.

from the Nov MacWorld pg 10 I see Memorex add
for a 4.7 gig DVD = 120 min video ?
anyway my VHS 99 cent cassetts hold 6 hrs
so let medo some math in an ofF math hour way
6hr 60m/h = 360 Minutes {recheck this in the morning}
and 99cents spread over a 360 = around FOUR min on a penny
now about the video from TV audio from the Radio
yes, yes: makes sence {been doing that since `86}
and yes i will REXamin my connections again..
the thing that bugs me about the "SYSTEM"
if i have a wire [no matter howshort] connected
it switches me to Line input and the only way i've found
to get back on channel is to reach behind a pull the RCA
whitch of course is a pain due to stacking shelving and space {any CLUES} No? oh I `poised ? 5:17 A.M. 2-11-30 I guess 360 is correct {recheck after the 2004 elections}

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I can send the file to Mr. Plait through messenger or AIM. I don't currently have an FTP server set up so that isn't an option. I could also burn it to a CD-r and send it to him through the mail. I would of course need a mailing address to send it to though. I'll have to wait to see what Mr. Plait wants to do.

As for HUb', I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The only thing I could extract from your post was something about VHS tapes I believe. I'll take a stab at it though:
HUb', a 4.7 GB DVD will hold a ton of video, but it all depends on how it is encoded (bitrates and such). For example, a typical prerecorded DVD movie that is say, 90 minutes in length, typically is about 4 GB. That is with high quality MPEG-2 .vob files. However, if you take and convert those MPEG-2 files to DivX .avi files for instance, you can get the file down to about 700 MB and still have a higher quality than what VHS tapes are capable of. It is flexible too. By playing with the bitrate of the codec you can get 2 hours (120 minutes) of video to fit into 700 MB and still be high quality (700 MB being the magic figure because that is the most you can fit on a standard CD-r). So you could fit close to 14 hours of video that is higher quality than VHS onto a 4.7 GB DVD. That is more than what will fit on $.99 VHS tapes, which like you said, hold 6 hours (360 minutes). If you wanted to go lower than VHS quality picture with your video files you could fit 30 hours, 40 hours...the sky is the limit almost, onto a 4.7 GB DVD. It all depends on what you want for picture quality.
Yes, I have done this as well but VHS is not flexible the way audio files are on a computer. You can fit 6 hours of audio onto a 6 hour VHS tape and no more. On a computer however you can compress audio files to very small proportions using the MP3 codec if sound quality isn't a big concern (like when you are dealing with spoken word rather than music) I compressed 3 hours of Art Bell and his guest talking into a 43 MB file. Now, if you were recording with VHS you could fit only 6 hours of audio onto the tape whether it was music or talking or whatever. Think about how much audio you could fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. If 3 hours takes up 43 MB then you could fit 338 hours of similarly compressed audio onto a 4.7 GB DVD (43 divided by 3 = 14.3, so 14.3 MB per hour of audio multiplied by 338 hours = 4,833.4 MB divided by 1,024 (1,024 MB in 1 GB) = 4.72 GB)...or about 2 weeks of continuous radio sound quality audio onto one DVD. Double sided DVD's hold 9.4 GB so if you use those make that a whole month of continuous audio. Those figures were from spoken word audio compressed with the MPEG-3 (MP3) codec at a 32 kbps bitrate. You can compress them even tighter than that depending on the software you are using and maybe fit a couple months of audio (probably AM radio quality but still listenable) onto a double-sided DVD.

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I'd like to be cc'd a copy of the file if convenient, I have a roadrunner account so transmission speed at my end is not a problem.

JimO

jamesoberg@houston.rr.com

Mr. Oberg, I sent you an email, but in case you check here first...I would be more than happy to transfer the file to you. It will need to be a real time transfer such as through Yahoo Messenger or AIM. I haven't seen an email server yet that would accept a 43 MB file. Even if you have paid for an email account large enough to contain the file you will still generally run into problems with single files that are above 5 MB or so trying to be received at once. It is the way that admins tend to permission things. If you know for a fact that your email account can accept a 43 MB file all at once then I will send it that way if you prefer. If not just message me on Yahoo under the name judgecoltandhisjuryofsix. If I am not online leave an offline message.

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"Dense^5th ?" - HUb' - Bad Master

"I've made a note that this is the date on which I first fully understood one of HUb''s posts and saw how it related directly to the thread. I could be wrong, though!" - DaveC - Bad Grad

<a name="2-11-30.DEt"> page 2-11-30.DEt aka DElete Time 5:22 A.M.
On 2002-11-29 21:47, cigarette_repairman wrote: To? 5:23 A.M.
Yes, I have done this as well but VHS is not flexible the way audio files are on a computer. You can fit 6 hours of audio onto a 6 hour VHS tape and no more. On a computer however you can compress audio files to very small proportions using the MP3 codec if sound quality isn't a big concern (like when you are dealing with spoken word rather than music) I compressed 3 hours of Art Bell and his guest talking into a 43 MB file. Now, if you were recording with VHS you could fit only 6 hours of audio onto the tape whether it was music or talking or whatever. Think about how much audio you could fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. If 3 hours takes up 43 MB then you could fit 338 hours of similarly compressed audio onto a 4.7 GB DVD (43 divided by 3 = 14.3, so 14.3 MB per hour of audio multiplied by 338 hours = 4,833.4 MB divided by 1,024 (1,024 MB in 1 GB) = 4.72 GB)...or about 2 weeks of continuous radio sound quality audio onto one DVD. Double sided DVD's hold 9.4 GB so if you use those make that a whole month of continuous audio. Those figures were from spoken word audio compressed with the MPEG-3 (MP3) codec at a 32 kbps bitrate. You can compress them even tighter than that depending on the software you are using and maybe fit a couple months of audio (probably AM radio quality but still listenable) onto a double-sided DVD.
5:30 A.M. Pluss be it know that YOU cannot send a "TON" of data
electron into my system(2) without a delay inposed
by the inposing SYSTEM(1) back to DeLaTing 5:32 A.M.

Once again HUb', I am not sure what you just said and it isn't for lack of trying. I'll get it eventually I suppose.
The above statement is interesting. Please elaborate HUb'.
Also, what exactly are you deleting that is taking so long?

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"Dense^5th ?" - HUb' - Bad Master

"I've made a note that this is the date on which I first fully understood one of HUb''s posts and saw how it related directly to the thread. I could be wrong, though!" - DaveC - Bad Grad

C-R, you have to realize that HUb' is using an incredibly outdated system here. I believe his usual computer is a 386, probably with corresponding hardware.

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...And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. --Sir Bedevere

Wow, that is quite impressive that he is online at all. What is he running for an O/S? Old version of Windows or an old version of Linux?

The guess are open.Probably IBM OS-1 operating system on a floppy disk.

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One thing I don't understand though. If you look at the bottom of HUb''s posts you will see that he has Yahoo! Messenger, AIM and MSN Messenger. For one thing, how do you run any of these instant message clients on a 386? Plus, you would definitely need a hard drive to install any of these since they are all too large to even fit the install file onto a floppy. And last I checked you couldn't get AIM, MSN or Yahoo for IBM's OS-1 lol. Probably the oldest version of Windows that would be compatable with any of these clients would be Windows 95 if you are lucky. I don't know about Yahoo or MSN but you can get "GAIM" which is an AIM client for Linux. You would probably need an old version though to run on a 386.

Hub is a magician or he certainly dont use a 386 computer!

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I don't think the 386 is his only computer. I believe he's also mentioned a 486, and access to other computers occasionally. He's talked about hard drive problems before, so he must have at least one somewhere.

I'm not sure what his OS is (are?). It may be some form of Linux or BSD. But whatever he uses, he seems to be able to squeeze a lot of performance out of it. The Yahoo, AIM and such may or may not be real. I've seen him enter things into forms before that weren't really what should be there. He probably doesn't run them all at once, at least.

I guess it's really up to HUb' to clear it all up for us. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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...And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. --Sir Bedevere

I'm sure that I am not the only one that caught the humor in that statement. I think HUb''s posts are great. If I see that HUb' has made a post I make an effort to read it and try to figure it out. One thing that HUb''s posts generally do not do however, is clear anything up, lol.

4:59 A.M.
<a name="2-12-01.sis"> page 2-12-01.sis aka SyStems?
there are TWO main Universities {oh never mind} here
http://www.pacificu.edu/
http://www.mth.pdx.edu/
I can easily exceed those two Different systems with1 5.25 floppy
Pacific (a Macuniversity in a Mac town Imight add
{my guess its the only place like that in the Solar System} interesting
the other {I call it Police State University}
its much closer (but U know inforced stupidity} they removed the GOOD mac in '98 {now back2 con$p} 5:07 A.M. yep Math next

Here's what I got from the one-hour segment I just listened to a recording of.

---

MA states that on the Apollo-13 movie, after the explosion, the crew "had to put their spacesuits on in order to be safe", and there was a shot of them zipping up their suits ("How do you pressurize a zipper?" MA asked). As I remember it, there is actually no such sequence in the film, the three astronauts transferred into the LM in their white 'flight suit' coveralls, they never touched the spacesuits. The 'zipping up' scene is pre-launch when the crew is being suited up prior to walking the gangway to the White Room high above the Florida swampland. MA has misremembered what he saw in the movie.

MA states that the spacesuits are "basically a hard shell", one "made of fiberglass" that is "not very flexible" and "movements are severely restricted." This is not accurate. The Apollo suits were multi-layer fabric and other materials, but not as far as I remember 'fiberglass'. They were quite flexible.

MA also expresses problems with the Apollo-13 movie dream sequence of the lunar lander on the surface, implying it seemed to me that the scene was too vivid to be anything but a fake, just like the photographs of the claimed 'real landing'. I didn't get his point.

Ten minutes into the hour, MA responds to AB's question about why the astronaut missions were impossible: "What is the showstopper of space, what would prevent this from happening, this is the key to it all -- radiation." The radiation in the belts is "very severe -- certainly severe enough to cause damage to space vehicles that operate within it." MA mentions geosync commsats but says they are 'hardened' to resist radiation.

After a break for weather at 20 minutes in, MA comes back and asserts that "it adds up to a potentially disabling level of radiation." After all, he continues, "All radiation is generated by the Sun", and in space the X-rays and the gamma rays are the most dangerous.

After a digression regarding the fate of the dog Laika aboard Sputnik-2 in November 1957, MA continues: "Despite a great deal of searching, I have been unable to find the results [of any animal experiments in space]." However, "We do know that none of these animals returned." The deaths of all the experimental animals, MA states, is "One reason why a lot of the original research wasn't discussed. The results really haven't been announced."

About thirty minutes in, MA raises the issue of photographic film. AB asks if all the film would be fogged, MA replies, "Yes". He elaborates: "I'm saying the levels of radiation known to exist -- that photographic film would be affected." There were no precautions, such as putting film in a lead container (MA: "That is what happens on the space shuttle today").

AB presses MA on actual radiation levels. MA describes how the background radiation is about half a rem and that nuclear industry workers are allowed to get up to 5 rem per year. "The point at which it will affect people starts at about 35 rem and they will exhibit the first signs of radiation sickness -- the symptoms are nausea and vomiting. At 100 rem or more you will be disabled. The point at which you start dying is 500 rem."

AB presses for how much the astronauts should have gotten going through the Van Allen Belts. MA relies, "You expect to collect around 15 to 20 REM each way. Photographic film is affected at 5 to 10 REM." AB points out that even at that level, the astronauts would be far short of disabling or even harmful dosages, and MA changes the subject to solar flares.

"The real show stopper is solar flares," MA declares. "They are unpredictable, they cannot be known about in advance," and he adds that Apollo flew during a solar maximum period. AB, who is a radio amateur, replies that he knows the impact of solar flares on radio communications, but he asks MA about the records of actual flares that occurred during Apollo flights. MA answers that "records have been extremely difficult to get a hold of," they seem to be discouraging anybody finding them.

Nevertheless, MA continues, "On Apollo-16 there was a major flare, an M-class flare". AB asks, "What would it have meant?". Replies MA, "Death." The flare would have delivered 900 REM to the astronauts, he declares: "They would be very dead, and they're not."

In the last few minutes of the hour there were some comments about how "all the astronauts were military men" but I couldn't see the point that MA was leading to. The program then goes to on-the-hour network news, and when it returns it's call-ins mostly unrelated to the Moon Hoax theme.

About that "M" class solar flare. Where do
you go to find information like that? And
when you find it is it in plain English or
do you have to be familiar with the field of
study?
BTW, I am typing this post in a Lynx text
browser similar to what HUb' uses to try and
see things from his point of view. I can see
now why HUb''s post are all in a narrow
columns like poetry LOL. For anyone who has
never seen what HUb' sees when he comes here
take a look at the screen shot below.


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9:11 A.M.
On 2002-12-01 23:53, cigarette_repairman wrote: To? HUb''s
About that "M" class solar flare. Where
<a name="2-12-02.MC"> page 2-12-02.MC aka My Class
THERE SHOULD BE A PLACE {below} to click oN
to go to HUb' web site? ifyou cant find it ??
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/vi...rum=1#LOCKTHRD
9:18 A.M. and from there you can find M class
browser similar to what HUb'
9:18 A.M. yeah yeah: I use a two step process
prior I remoce the " marks around the.jpg
9:19 A.M. so i can link to them TEXT only
1 then I download the .jpg
2 and exit my com connection and view the Jpg later in time
http://www.skyphix.com/non/lynx.jpg
9:21 A.M. Now back to the ASR7 {& space travel}
9:21 A.M. He he Going to the moon {on LEM's & RED's}
(um I was refering to he "contact" Light) now back to NaSa{ings}

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