Please, see the sky in spirit image R7 on sol 584
http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/a...3P2264R7M1.HTML
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That looks like a data transmission dropout to me. I have a page talking about this sort of thing.

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I've been waiting some other comment. Good, it seems that there are not.
My thoughts:
It is possible that your explanation regarding the anomaly is feasible, but I have some things that to say.
1) The same image was taken with filters L2, L5, L6, and R2.
2) I can't see the anomaly observed in R7.
3) Remember that for the filter change a certain time is needed, some thing can appear in the visual field among filter changes.
4) There are 138 images in sol 584, all with the same sequence of filters, the rest doesn't present anomalies. Especially in R7.
5) There are 180 images in sol 583, 195 sol 585, without anomalies.
6) Enlarging the image one can see that the transmission error has a very defined shape and there is a tail that it leaves from behind.

For all these things I'm not fully convinced with your explanation, perhaps would have to think of another thing.
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the anomaly doesn't have to be reacuring on eveyr picture.
If you use your digital camera a lot you sometimes will also have some of this (especialy with older modules), but sometimes image taken less than 20 sec apart one has and one doesn't.

I'm pretty sure this is just an anomaly, nothing more

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SORRY, I’M STILL NOT CONVINCED.
FIST OF ALL I HAVE A FUJI F5500 CAMERA, IT’S NOT THE BEST BUT IT WORKS VERY GOOD; I’VE NEVER SEEN THESE MISTAKES. ANYWAY, I’M SURE THE ROVERS DON’T HAVE COMMERCIAL CAMERAS AT ALL.
I’VE PUT THE SAME IMAGE IN ANOTHER SERIOUS, AND WELL-KNOWN FORUM: ‘ANOMALY HUNTERS’. AND I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE ANSWER WAS TECNICATLY THE OPOSOSITE OF YOURS.
THE RESPONSE WAS:

Hi Jorge,

You're exactly right, that 'is' something in the image. It is not a data drop, if it were (at this size) it would be a perfectly horizontal black rectangle. It is not something on the lens of the Right Panorama Camera, nor, is it something on the #2 Filter, if it were it would be on all the other R2 pictures following the one you posted.

In fact it seems to have the profile of an Airplane with a Tail, tilted at an angle where the wings don't show. The light is shaded along the Fusilage in such a manner that would preclude an illusion caused by dropouts, even if they occurred at angles other than horizontal/vertical squares or rectangles.

Checking it everyway I can on a computer with no graphics program, I can see no possible explanation other than a hard, physical, airborne object within the field of view of the Rovers Camera...on Mars. In short, a real, honest to Pete UFO.

Brilliant find, that. I love it when everything they tell me can't be...can, and, is. Congratulations.

Gordon

AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE CONTINUED WORKING ON IT. I THINK THEIR JOB WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL.

I DO INVITE YOU, TO FOLLOW THEIR JOB AND POST YOUR OPPINION.

http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/ma....pl?read=17534
http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/ma....pl?read=17536

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Hi George,

no need to shout.

Any idea why the pixels are exactly in a horizontal row? I've seen too many image artifacts duie to sensor dropouts o transission errors or something else to assume anything else in your picture. And just because no-one shouts "An airplane!" here is no reason for you not to be happy. Why do you want to see something that isn't there?
Now, someone comes on the other BB and says "There is something in the image" and "I can see no possible explanation other than a hard, physical, airborne object within the field of view of the Rovers Camera." and your are happy even when such an assumption is much more far-fetched and unsubstantiated than anything else.
If you want to believe in planes on Mars, you are free to do. But here on this board, we deal with hard facts and evidence and not with believe.

Harald

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Sorry, but it seems a conversation between crazy people.
I don’t want to see something that isn’t there.
I’m not happy because other people think in other way.
I’m only very curious, I believe in facts too, but I’m free to explore other possibilities.
Where did I write that I was seeing or believing in an airplane on Mars?
I only say that’s something strange in the sky. What can it be?.
You say this is a data dropout.
I reply, are you sure?.
Yes, absolutely. I’ve seeing a lot o them.
I say. Other people have been working on it. But,
nobody can probe it’s not a dropout, you can’t probe that this really is.
We are on the Earth.

That's all for me, end of the discussion.

Do these "dropouts" only happen in the sky part of the image and not the ground? Here's one I stumbled across:

http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gal...P2400L7M1.HTML

hi, the 'artifact' being dicussed has a visual clue - it is very well defined with clean, sharp edges. IF this is an actual object it would need to be fairly close range, hence pretty tiny. if it were a large object (capable of carrying humanoid types) then it would need to be some distance away, and that would mean that well defined edges would get somewhat lost in the haze of atmosphere. these are just ideas from seeing other mars photo's and relating them to how objects photogragh here on earth on a clear, crisp winter day...dougreed PS the object is also MUCH sharper than ANYthing else in the image

Why the attitude?
Let's face it, there's no proof of "alien" life anywhere and when presented with an "anomaly," should we automatically consider it as viable ET "smoking gun" when more mundane explanations are possible?

I'm a skeptic when it comes to ET piloting the "UFOs" that are reported, but I'd like nothing better than be shown I'm wrong. No one has proved that ET even exists, let alone finds our solar system worthy of repeated visitation. As a former "believer," I'll admit it was kinda fun to wonder if ET would intrude on my star-gazing, but wishful thinking didn't make it so. Scouring over Martian images won't either.

There's nothing wrong with pointing out "anomalies," but to expect other people (especially considering many of the astronomically/scientifically savvy here) to automatically embrace your particular POV is unrealistic.

People aren't asserting proof, they're looking for evidence.

I'm curious as to what that would entail. A .gov report? If an expert did a study showing these aren't dropouts, would they be believed, or would they be discredited?

If you don't look for something, you won't find it?

Shouldn't "dropouts" be horizontal rectangles, as the data is transmitted in rows? So why is the one I posted earlier vertical? It's from the same Spirit, same camera.

That wasn't my point. Reread what I posted.If it was shown not to be a dropout .. then it's not a dropout, nothing more.I think if one wants to look for "anomalies" in Martian images, something will turn up eventually. The thing is, shouldn't one consider the mundane before promoting the incredible?Did you email NASA? I don't know if it's a "dropout" or not myself. That wasn't my point. To restate it, there's no evidence of ET and one should not cop an attitude when people here propose more mundane possibilities. "UFO" images are not evidence of ET, at best they are evidence of a UFO, at worst they are not even that.

It might be a hit by a gamma ray to, they tend to produce similar markings.


I do gree though. Eliminte the obvious and known causes, drop outs, dirt on the lens, GRB, etc before considering the extraordinary.

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