I think Posner's Case Closed sold pretty well, for an anti-CT book. His approach was a solid debunking of the major CTs, not just a rehash of the Warren Commission findings.

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Yes, it was very successful. That was one of the most successful of the anti-conspiracy books, and Posner was very good at promoting it on TV interview shows.

A couple of others were “Marina and Lee” of the late ‘70s and “Oswald’s Game” of the 1980s. Both of these examined Oswald’s mental state.

These three are about the only successful anti-conspiracy books.

Vince Bugliosi’s epic 2,500 page anti-conspiracy book is due out next year.

Not automatically. Many CT books were flops simply because the national mood was not interested in them at the time. The ones that came out right after the HSCA report flopped badly. I think Posner actually does a chronology of the various books at the end of Case Closed.

Wasn't there a book that was effectively anti-CT, but stuck entirely to the Tippet murder?

Well, that'll be worth picking up. You know, he once "proscuted" Lee Harvey Oswald on a BBC (I think) TV show. Proved guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and everything.

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I saw that on PBS years ago. He did a great job.

I think so, but I don't remember much about it.

There was also a good book by a young guy in Ft. Worth titled something like "A Conspiracy of One," which said Oswald was the lone "conspirator."

With Malice, by Dale K. Myers. Myers also created the computer animation that proves the Single Bullet Theory and was featured on the ABC special a few years ago.

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Watch this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05121&q=JFK+II

I watched the first eleven minutes or so until it nauseated me too much to continue. Nothing but standard conspiracist crap (yes, I said crap) including repeatedly calling Peter Jennings a liar (because the ABC special edited out the part of a film where Kennedy's press secretary pointed to his right temple, and because Jennings correctly stated that the "back and to the left" movement does not indicate a shot from the right front), extensive use of mistaken initial reports, handwaving, appeals to common sense, and quotations from forensic pathologist and JFK crackpot Dr. Cyril Wecht. Complete garbage.

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Sorry for the bump, I just have a question for Spitfire. I watched some movie last week about Marita Lorenz and apparently she had spouted some nonsense about being involved indirectly in the Kennedy assasination attempt. Just out of curiosity have you got any info on her ramblings?

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I watched some movie last week about Marita Lorenz and apparently [s]he had spouted some nonsense about being involved indirectly in the Kennedy assasination attempt. Just out of curiosity have you got any info on her ramblings?

I'm sorry I didn't answer this sooner, but I was out of town last week, and it's taken me a couple of days to get somewhat caught up on posts.

Here is John McAdams' take on Marita Lorenz (he places her in the group of "tellers of tall tales").

I also found this article that casts even more doubt on Lorenz's credibility.

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Interesting. It's very hard for the layperson to know either way.

I really don't agree. You see, I'm a total layperson. I don't have expertise in any Kennedy assassination-related field. Not a one. Not ballistics or sound reproduction or photography or anything. (Well, a little about psychology, but that only helps me understand that Lee Harvey Oswald was just the right kind of crazy for the job. I can only look at people on a case-by-case basis, and I'm very much an amateur in the field.) Still, I do have expertise in evaluating other people's research, because I went to a college that emphasized that sort of thing.

From my lay perspective, there isn't a doubt that Oswald did it. We're not talking reasonable doubt, either--I don't think there's any doubt at all unless you choose to rewrite some pretty pivotal concepts. (As in, maybe he was possessed by demons or maybe the whole thing was actually mass hysteria and Kennedy never even existed in the first place.) Every conspiracy theory I've heard is more full of holes than Connally ended up being.

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I don't think it's wise to pitch your tent on either side of the river

How about the high ground then? Say... the Grassy Knoll

Seriously though. Sonce joining this forum, any questions I may have ever had about the JFK assassination have been obliterated.

Oswald was the only shooter. He fired from the book despository. "Badge Man" and the other two shapes on the grassy knoll in that one blurry photo were not even human figures. The only thing left, to me, that could be a conspiracy is if some guy planted the idea in Oswald's head. And I don't mean som hypnotic thing. I mean some random guy in a bar that said something like, "You know, it wouldn't be hard to just pick him off when he comes to town next week". Something like that could also never be proven. I am 100% convinced that there was one shooter. In another thread I laid out the multiple shooter scenario and in got a bit silly, though it did pretty much account for all of the arguments against a lone shooter and both neck wounds being entry points.

Check out the various other JFK threads and look for posts made by SpitfireIX. Especially those from around February of this year.

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I don't think it's wise to pitch your tent on either side of the river

hello people, I suggest that you read through the JFK thread when you have time. Doing so might well change your opinion about fence-sitting.

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What a curious saying. The alternative would seem to be to pitch one's tent in the middle of the river. That wouldn't seem particularly sensible.

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I think it's wise to evaluate the evidence, and point out the inconsistencies with arguments. The more you do so, the more the truth comes out to shine, and it seems that, with all the evidence available, the most likely explanation is that Oswald pulled the trigger, and acted alone.

What you basically seem to be saying is, "It's impossible for anyone to really know, so we should act as if all answers are possible"... which seems pretty silly to me.

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Exactly what I thought. You need to pitch your tent somewhere, or else you won't be able to sleep in it. Really, the tent metaphor doesn't strike me as at all useful.

What's so bad about going where the evidence leads? It all leads to one sad, crazy little man alone with a gun on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

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"You can't erase icing."

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