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Old 26-November-2005, 09:42 AM
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And from here:

"That's pretty weasel-like of you"

"It's a snarky attempt at deception"


From here:

"How far do you think you can get with lies?"


From here:

"Are you comfortable making perfectly ridiculous statements?"

There are others, but this should be sufficient.
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Old 26-November-2005, 12:52 PM
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Why is that piece of "757" so nice and shiny, and so far away from the Pentagon? If one piece flew that far, where are the others?
You seem to think everything would fall in a nice neat pattern for your convenience? Nope. That is not the way things work.

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"Catherder" claims something else entirely is the "757". He and Obviousman need to get their stories straight. Which one are you prepared to say is wrong?
Are you referring to the security photo.

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Why does the "757" seem to hit the Pentagon straight on, when it is claimed that it came in at nearly a 45 degree angle?
Source for this 45 angle claim?

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He claims there are visible 757 seats. Where are they?
In the picture with the crew carrying the ladder, like he said. Its damaged, and not pretty, but it is there.

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No bodies? No luggage?
You want photos of body parts? Sorry, but you'll have to live with the Coroners' report.

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For starters, anyway.
Not a good start.

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Britain's ITN continued: "The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft with a wingspan equivalent to a Boeing 737, flew from Edwards Air Force Base in California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force base at Edinburgh, in South Australia state…. It flies along a pre-programmed flight path, but a pilot monitors the aircraft during its flight via a sensor suite which provides infra-red and visual images."

According to the Australian Global Hawk manager Rod Smith: '"The aircraft essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing, and even taxiing off the runway."'
That's nice. The pilots on USENET laughed and laughed at you when you tried to claim this was proof of anything.

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Of course, you're still assuming a 757 hit the Pentagon. I don't feel there is evidence supporting that conclusion. I'd love to be wrong about it.
No you would not. You have made a life of trolling this stuff on message boards.

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The FBI says they have 84 different video tapes, I believe, and none of them show a 757?
Source?
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Old 26-November-2005, 01:32 PM
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What happened to the plane? What happened to the passengers?
What do you not understand?

A 757 hits the building at high spped. The high inertia fuselage and engines penetrate the buildings walls while the lower inertia outer wings and tail get ripped to shreds that bounce off the building. The fuselage would be peeling away at the front as impacts reduced its semi-rigid original form into a more fluid collection of the fuselage structure and the mass of it's contents. Some of the buildings contents would accumulate at the front of the moving mass as some of the original mass is lost within the building. The contents of the plane experienced impact acceleration of 20 to 40 gees, fluid rendering of contents, and of course extensive fire damage. I cringe to think of what happened to the passengers.

Much ado has been made of photos of the wrong part of the Pentagon lawn. The plane hit at an angle and so obviously the debris bounced at an angle. Photos of the area left of the helipad show the lawn there was littered with copious amounts of the shredded aluminum skin of the plane.

Disagreement over one bad image cannot supplant the testimony of hundreds of people. I for one watched the news that day. To think that someone "got to" all of the people on the freeway before they made statements is more than ludacris.

I remember seeing this particular guy make this statement.
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So, what happened to the 757 and all the passengers? Disappear into the Bermuda Triangle?
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What happened to the plane? What happened to the passengers?

And why don't we all insist this question gets answered before we ask any more questions?
These two questions can be asked time and time again, but neither Jason Gortician, nor to my knowledge can any 911 CT believer or promoter is willing to attempt to answer them.

In any case this and any other post that tries to suggest alternatives to the beliefs of the CT believers will simply be ignored or belittled. (See also post 174 in this thread)
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This thread went off the rails in so many ways. I'm shutting it down.
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