Observation: Blob of aluminum alloy
Conclusion: Extraterrestrials

And we got from A to Y how?

No matter what this metal chunk is made of, that in and of itself does not prove it's not of this Earth. Everything identified in this sample can be found on Earth. Though it may not be made of an alloy used in commerce, that doesn't mean aliens made it! Besides, wouldn't a highly advanced civilization (which they would have to be if they routinely make interstellar travel) use something that might look remotely useful? I'd be more impressed if Bob White said he found a Tricorder or something. And as Cookie mentioned previously, why wouldn't there some sort of mark or something showing this item's origin, manufacturer, etc? (and BTW, Cookie, the forks, knives and spoons in my house are marked: STAINLESS STEEL--MADE IN KOREA )

Revised to add: For anyone who believes that polygraphs are incontestable proof, have a read of William Poundstone's book Big Secrets. There's a chapter devoted to the polygraph, including how to defeat one by exaggerating stress responses to the "control" questions asked during a polygraph examination.

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According to Bob White, A fell out of an Y he saw flying around, after which White picked up the A.

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But of course it's more likely he found A, thought it looked unusual, and then concocted the story of the Y so that he could ask for "millions" of dollars for an A worth at most tens. Now that it has been properly valued, he's understandably miffed.

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That's where I got my information. Some of it, anyway; Ann Rule contributed some, too.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Yeah I know, they're not parallel.

But that's OK. White's associate took the photo on June 9th.

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... a forum article that is an unskeptical rehash of the Bob White metal blob.

Is there nothing new?

R.I.P.

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Hi metal man, how are you? Long time no see, did you have a nice summer?

As 01101001 said, a rehash of the same stuff on a different forum doesn't make it anything new.

By the way, last time you were here, there were some unanswered questions left hanging. By the rules of this forum, you still need to answer them.

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I think you finally trapped the Metal Man. They were janitors and he knew it.
Now he is too embarassed to make a reply. Gone forever I fear, just like the spaceship that dropped the piece of aluminum . . .

lots of new information in that thread..like tests that arent here in this discussion..
looks like a forensics test will be done in january if all goes well.

we are still looking for more answers..closed minds are small minds..

the janitor doing the tests at MIT is robert golka..maybe you have heard of him...hes the tesla expert and has 19 published papers...

pretty good reference for janitors school..lol

It looks a lot like the aluminum "icicles" that I used to make in high school.

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I knew I could smoke you out with the "janitor" comment Metal Man. I wanted you to return because I find this story interesting. I do remember years ago seeing a picture of a very similar object. I do not recall the circumstances about how it appeared but it looked the same. You've had a rough ride on this stream and undeserving I might add. Not everbody is a fraud and a hoaxter. There seems to be a little game going on throughout this forum. Many inflated egos playing ping pong so to speak. Each trying to outdo the other while mocking the evidence. Very disappointing. There is nothing to learn here Metal Man, A bunch of low performance wannabes with degrees trying to eke out a place for themselves on the edge of an otherwise performance orientated environment. They cannot make a legitamate discovery for themselves and certainly can't stand it out alone on the cutting edge. They flock together relagated to taking pot shots at others and exist where mediocrity reigns supreme. The world is full of them and it is a waste of your time to give them much attention. I'm out of here for good as of now--see you at ATS.

What evidence? If anyone could ever get a hold of any, that would be super. But they don't.

So, I suppose disagreeing with someone is cause for ad homs and insults, huh?

(Note: I frequent ATS as well, but under another psuedonym. I consider it volunteer work or charity to educate people who are not capable of critical thinking.)

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I applaud you for your unselfish contribution to education. What a guy huh? Out of the goodness of your heart no doubt you choose to educate those with this "critical thinking" deficiency. What is it you feel qualifies you for such a generous gesture of rehabilitation for these people? Do you have a degree in "critical thinking"? I'm sure the participants at the ATS forum would hold you in high esteem if they knew you were working behind the scenes in an attempt to alter their misquided ways. You must be really really smart huh?

you ignore the evidence in your little world...my world is much bigger and i continue to look for answers while you try to ridicule research that just doesnt fit you tiny little world of reality..

so sad...but quite funny to..

i enjoy reading your snide little commments thinking your something very special..

hardly special and not really entertaining either..

see ya..

we arent going anywhere but to another lab...

maybe you should find something you can test someday..

I had not heard of him so I did a little googling.
This is a reference to a paper he did in the Journal of Geophysical Research in 1994. It lists his affiliation as Golka Associates, not MIT. I found other links to UFO websites, forums, and similar stuff, mostly about Tesla and ball lightening (the subject of the linked paper). I didn't find any indications of an affliation with MIT and I even searched MIT's website.

Could you elaborate on his connection with MIT and exactly what tests he is doing?

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he is an associate at mit...keeps and office there and uses some of the labs there..

you wont find him listed..hes not staff or a teacher..

he is independent and does contract work and special research..

keeps a low profile so to speak..

not everything is listed in google...

he did ball lighting research at wendover in the 70s for the airforce..

he is doing isotope abundance ratio testing for us and he and i did the gama beta and thermal neutron bubble chamber testing in california and at the IEEE nuclear science synposium in san diego in nov 07...

Okay, you mentioned "robert golka at MIT" over a year ago. Presumably you can point to a paper he has written up, something official, on results that he states are indicators of extraterrestrial origin? And do you have references of anyone else that has confirmed his results and conclusions?

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