I think we are crossing the bounds of the political rules of the forum, even for being in the "Conspiracy Theory" section.

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

Why is that, really?
If they had motivation to crash planes into WTC 1 and 2, as well as the Pentagon, as CTers claim, then one single person would be a piece of cake, as there are plenty of ways to make a person dissappear.

Heck, they could just call in David Copperfield.

BTW, I'm willing to be that's the most comprehensive list of CTer websites I've ever seen on these boards.

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This is no fantasy. No careless product of wild imagination. - Jor-El

Godspeed, John Glenn. - Scott Carpenter

And these atomic bombs that science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men that used them.
- H.G Wells, The World Set Free

To the conspiracy crowd, radiation is a big Boogey Man that inspires terror and death in all who encounter it. - JayUtah

I said it was only a theory. One can only speculate in a situation like this but not come to any conclusions.

What about Steve Kangas?
http://www.google.es/search?hl=en&q=...as&btnG=Search

This guy was very informed and had a knack for explaining things. He was pretty young when he died. I can imagine the stuff he would have written if he'd lived thirty more years. The last thing the US government wants is an informed public.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-chichile.htm

I disagree with you; I think it's plausible that the government threatened Chomsky. He has a lot of admirerers and they take what he says seriously. If Chomsky says that 9/11 was not an inside job, a lot of people will believe him. If I were in his place and I were worried about my grandchildren having "Accidents" if I spoke my true mind, I'd lie.
I didn't say I was sure. I just said that I think it's plausible.

One could also speculate that Chomsky is telling what he actually believes. That is, what he says is his own mind and no one is influencing him.

I believe that sort of speculation would be satisfied by Occam's Razor; very simple, no need to involve "evil gubmit".

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This is no fantasy. No careless product of wild imagination. - Jor-El

Godspeed, John Glenn. - Scott Carpenter

And these atomic bombs that science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men that used them.
- H.G Wells, The World Set Free

To the conspiracy crowd, radiation is a big Boogey Man that inspires terror and death in all who encounter it. - JayUtah

I said it was only a theory. One can only speculate in a situation like this but not come to any conclusions.

Well, it's not rally a theory in the scientific sense. A theory has to explain something, has to be falsifiable, has to fit observed facts, and has to have some evidence for it. Your speculation is merely that: It doesn't explain Chomsky's stated position as well as the idea that he really believes what he says; there's no way to independently demonstrate it, unless Chomsky or some gubmint agent blurted it out; the idea that he is being threatened doesn't jibe with the impunity enjoyed by rabid 9/11 CTs such as Fetzer; and, again, there is no evidence at all for such a claim.

To paraphrase Bob Park's advisor: it's a "theory" in the sense it was written on a computer.

I didn't say I was sure. I just said that I think it's plausible.

Fair enough. I find it implausible, for reasons already stated. 'Nuff said.

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Well it's obvious to me that David C is really a Government disinformationist trying to discredit Chomsky's work by claiming he really does believe that 911 was an inside job and so is lying about that, and casting a shadow over every other aspect of his work. I expect David C to vehemently deny this allegation, which will simply go to prove that he is indeed a Government stooge, else why would he complain so much. Well either that of totally ignore the accusation because it's totally true and so he won't be able to show otherwise.

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It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality. --- JayUtah

You can't reason an irrational person out of an irrational belief. --- Noclevername

Apollo: The History and the Hoax
Enter the World of Athran

I had to study his language acquisition theories in grad school. Chomsky has a remarkable capacity for making an interesting subject extraordinarily tedious.

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What do you people think of the "Steve Kangas" issue (post 33 this page)? I would bet that he was killed by the US government; he hadn't become well-known yet but he had the potential to be Chomsky's successor. I can understand why the government would want him to disappear.

As I said before--I still respect Chomsky mainly because he woke a lot of people up to the fact that the US had an empire.
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/englis...skyin1282.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19860409.htm

What do you guys think about the fact that the US has an empire?

Enter things like "Death squad", or "Empire" in this search engine to read more about the American empire.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/htdig/search.html

As I said before, if I were in Chomsky's place, I'd lie too if I were worried about the safety of my family. I can forgive him for his stand on 9/11.

In a superficial way, you're right, except that you should replace "US government" with "Bush league scientists".

In that manner, I refer to the supression of global warming data, the supressed studies of the FDA, and the promotion of Intelligent Design.
All these subjects are mentioned in the blog of this site.

These methods, of course, do not suceed. More are realizing the unscienctific nature of ID. And the surpression rouses have been uncovered, the people behind them no longer holding their positions.

Britian had an empire too, you know. Who has been killed regarding that information?

And why do you not think that Chomsky is speaking his own mind about 9/11?

Just because someone speaks of conspiracies doesn't mean they accept that 9/11 was an inside job. I've seen such people on the Loose Change forums.
Of course, they were berated for their beliefs.
This leads me to believe that the claims made by such people only exist in their heads; they are projecting their own attitudes when it comes to their theories.

Here's food for thought concerning conspiracy theories. It's someone's sig, which in turn is a quote:

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This is no fantasy. No careless product of wild imagination. - Jor-El

Godspeed, John Glenn. - Scott Carpenter

And these atomic bombs that science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men that used them.
- H.G Wells, The World Set Free

To the conspiracy crowd, radiation is a big Boogey Man that inspires terror and death in all who encounter it. - JayUtah

As I said before, if I were in Chomsky's place, I'd lie too if I were worried about the safety of my family.

"Too"? You haven't established - you haven't come close to establishing - that he has lied. You're just sure he is because you are so heavily invested in 9/11 CTs that to you, skeptics must be either a dupe or a willing member of the coverup. Therefore, you simply can't allow for the possibility that Chomsky is saying exactly what he thinks.

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"Slapping a guy on the head is just as funny now as it was eighty years ago."

So why haven't they killed Chomsky yet? If this guy could be killed for maybe, possibly going to become Chomsky's successor one day, why is Chomsky still around regardless of what he says about 9/11?

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I think that you are probably at risk too. I believe that for your own safety you ought to change your name, dye your hair, move to Romania, and never go near the Internet again. Do this quickly, before the death squads find you.

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Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. ---Cardinal Wolsey (1475-1530)

Oh, man, I'm a libertarian socialist as well.

Does anyone know of any nice, obscure villages in, say, Southern Chile?

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

None of you responded to my questions about Steve Kangas or the American empire.

There's no way to know what he was really thinking. I've read about ten of his books and lots of his articles and speeches and interviews. He is always very careful not to be dogmatic. He said some very dogmatic things in that speech on UTube. That was really out-of-character. When I read that quote a long time ago the first thing that came to my mind was that this was his way of telling us that he wasn't free to speak his real mind. If the government started bumping off all 9/11 truth-seekers who think it was an inside job, it would be too obvious. I think it's quite plausible that they singled out Chomsky for some special imtimidation that they don't normally give. It would be very benificial for the government and it would not draw too much attention.
Of course this is all speculation.
Killing Chomsky would be pretty obvious. It's more benificial to blackmail him into lying for them. They might have shown him a video of a little girl having her fingernails torn out and then killed and told him that this would happen to his granddaughter if he didn't cooperate with them.
Of course I'm only speculating.

That's because this forum has specific rules against discussing politics, which you've already crossed several times over.

Oh no. You've gone waaaaay over the line from speculation to the utterly absurd. I hope no one dignifies this with a response.

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

I would like to respond, but the government was showing me videos of internet geeks with their fingers glued to their keyboards and they told me that is what would happen if I didn't cooperate.

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You mean the same truth-seekers that claim that the hijackers were inept pilots that in no way could've flown the planes?

Do you mean the same people that claim the Pentagon was designed to withstand bunker busting cruise missiles?

Or those that try to show the WTCs couldn't have collapsed due to fire by buring paper in a mockup of the Towers made of chicken wire?

Are you associating Chomsky with such people?

Remember David C, just because someone doesn't like the US govt or the actions it has done (or that people claim to have done) doesn't mean they believe that 9/11 was an inside job.

Look at Richard Hoagland; he comes up with many ideas about Mars and the Moon, but doesn't believe in the Apollo hoax.

The way I see it is this: Noam Chomsky is to the "inside job theory" as Hoagland is to the Apollo hoax.

Comments?

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This is no fantasy. No careless product of wild imagination. - Jor-El

Godspeed, John Glenn. - Scott Carpenter

And these atomic bombs that science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men that used them.
- H.G Wells, The World Set Free

To the conspiracy crowd, radiation is a big Boogey Man that inspires terror and death in all who encounter it. - JayUtah

This thread is clearly against the politics rules. I am locking it.

And David C, your posts are blatantly over the politeness line. Tone it back.

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