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Old 14-October-2006, 03:39 PM
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Default Who do 9/11 conspiracists believe did it?

I've seen a lot of "but look at that grainy footage, see how the building is collapsing left, not right" from the 9/11 conspiracy crowd, but I haven't heard much about who they think actually did it. Just wondered.
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Old 14-October-2006, 05:28 PM
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The ones I've run into think that 9/11 was "masterminded" by the American Government. I've also heard that some people think that it was The New World Order (aka The Shadow Government). If this sounds crazy to you...then join the group!
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Old 14-October-2006, 05:55 PM
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There's a big belief that some sort Jewish conspiracy did it.
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Surely, were not our Lizard overlords, the Illuminati responsible?
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From what I gather, the Bush administration somehow managed it.

To me, it's silly to consider that, as they can't even keep their efforts to surpress science in the dark.
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you cannot understand the 9/11 conspiracy until you understand the JFK assassination:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...21&q=jfk&hl=en

besides, discussing the jfk assassination is much more fun because peoples current political biases dont get in the way as much.

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I heard that it was a little boy called Kyle, from South Park, Colorado.
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No matter who you think masterminded the operation, who actualy did it?
planted the bombs etc?
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Old 14-October-2006, 11:34 PM
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the answer is: the twin towers was the building in which Professor Hilbrough was developing the drug Hernaptus, which kills any body snatched person within seconds, leaving a pile of compost.
The body snatched "people" dressed up the attack to make it look like a terrorist event.
The whole plane was full of the sponge people. The terrorist had been terrorists before they were targeted so it looks extra real.
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No matter who you think masterminded the operation, who actualy did it?
planted the bombs etc?

No bombs. Just planes ramming into immobile objects.
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you cannot understand the 9/11 conspiracy until you understand the JFK assassination:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...21&q=jfk&hl=en

besides, discussing the jfk assassination is much more fun because peoples current political biases dont get in the way as much.

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They are both great examples of how people's biases affect how they see evidence, yes--and how the "official story," no matter how well-supported, isn't as interesting as what you want to believe.
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No bombs. Just planes ramming into immobile objects.
I know but the CTs think peoplee rigged the building to go bang! so where and who are they? I think that's one of the big holes in their theory
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I find it fascinating that conspiracy theorists think Bush capable of cloaking techology, mass manipulation of independant media, thought control of hundreds of thousands of witnesses, and complete, total and utterly flawless masterminding of the project, when in reality he couldn't even "find" some WMDs in Iraq?

Not trying to make a personal attack or a political statement, but surely if he were capable of orchestrating the 911 attack, he could have planted and then "found" something in Iraq, and save him the 50% or so NOT finding them has cost him in approval ratings?
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but I haven't heard much about who they think actually did it

They blame Bush, who they consider simultaneously to be an evil mastermind and a moron. But then, the CTs have never been known for rational thinking.
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I asked the questions of the "how" concerning the WTC collapses over at the LC forum. Tha basic answer was "I don't know".
They put forward this wild theory, but have no explanation as to the logistical details involved. Somehow, just putting the theory on the table is supposed to be enough.
It's a strange thought process we're dealing with. They have no real explanations, but it doesn't seem to bother them.
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I know but the CTs think peoplee rigged the building to go bang! so where and who are they? I think that's one of the big holes in their theory

Oh, that's what you're asking.

Most seem to think the govt did it, for some reason I don't understand.
The Bush Administration takes the blame as well. Again, the motive isn't clear (either to collect insurance, or to start the war in the Middle East).

Personally, I don't really care who they say did it; they have to prove that it was done by something else other than planes.

Also, their theory isn't the only thing that has holes in it....
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I know that think the Govt did it. what I am getting at is who the Govt got to do the actual job?

It's easy to say 'the Govt' but 'the Govt' implies people, not just someone to think of the idea but to plan and execute it.
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maybe the CTers did it to give themselves an excuse to call people 'sheeple' on stupid CT forums.
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I know that think the Govt did it. what I am getting at is who the Govt got to do the actual job?

It's easy to say 'the Govt' but 'the Govt' implies people, not just someone to think of the idea but to plan and execute it.
To a logical person, yes. However, the Government is considered by these types to be this huge, monolithic, self-supporting thing, not something comprised of many, many individuals. (Or "shindividuals," a la "sheeple.")
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I find it fascinating that conspiracy theorists think Bush capable of cloaking techology, mass manipulation of independant media, thought control of hundreds of thousands of witnesses, and complete, total and utterly flawless masterminding of the project, when in reality he couldn't even "find" some WMDs in Iraq?

You'd think wouldn't you, but then if it was all for an excuse to invade Iraq, you'd think they would have had a link all established for Iraq to have been involved in the attack too, rather than pinning it on a bunch of Saudi's.

the CTs have never been known for rational thinking.
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