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Old 30-October-2006, 05:09 PM
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As we have seen with the FOIA requests, over time they have gotten good information from them. In fact, when you look at the Project Moon Dust FOIA story involving Clifford Stone - that's a great story where Stone for years has been claiming he was apart of Project Moon Dust and that they recovered objects of unknown origin and in rare cases, these objects were of alien origin. So, since then he's been trying to use FOIA requests to prove this group did exist.

He's done it.
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Clifford Stone did not uncover the truth about Project Moondust and Project Bluefly; that had already been done by 1979 by Robert Todd. Stone was probably not involved in either project as he was in the Army and they were Air Force projects, designed to recover Soviet spacecraft or any other non-US debris. Therefore Stone almost certainly did not aid in the recovery of any extraterrestrial artifacts of any nature, and is almost certainly a complete fantasist. UFOlogy is full of 'em.
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I'm asking you to define what you mean when you use the term "UFO", in general...

See this is the reason I'm a firm believer in the use of "UFO" (Unidentified Flying Object) to merely mean an aerial phenomena of unknown origin and the use of "ETV" (Extraterrestrial Vehicle) to describe an assumed ETBE (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity) craft.
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I don't know.
But that's very important information. The longer the time elapsed between interviews, the more likely the information is to change. If the second interview was more than a year after the first, the person is far more likely to have been influenced by other witnesses, TV shows, movies, etc.

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But if they disagree then you say there are "half-dozen versions of the story".
It's more specific than that. If one person says it zig-zagged across the sky and another says it flew straight, that's two different versions. If one person says it was grey and one person says it was cream, that's a minor detail that helps show they aren't copying their stories from one another. If one person says it crashed in one state and another says it crashed in a different state, that's two different versions. If one person says it crashed a few yards--or even up to perhaps a quarter-mile--away from where the other person says it crashed, that's a minor detail. Do you see what I mean?

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Well if they all agree on the same story then it's collusion. So where is one to go? Is this like an ultimate out to avoid all testimony unless it supports an investigators preconcieved notion of what happened?
No. Not at all. It's an attempt to give you a lesson on how memory actually works. Tiny details like colour, distance, and even size (which depends very much on perception unless you have an actual way to measure it) and speed (ditto) will vary. That's human minds at work, and if everyone says the exact same details, it's suspicious. Then again, if they give wildly different reports--states away, military presence or not, straight or crooked path--that does tend to devalue the testimony as well.
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