My apologies, let me rephrase that, then.

"As far as Planet X in relation to Sitchin and Kugler, yes, it's a CT."

As far as Matese, et. al., they are referring to an entirely different concept, and it's intellectually dishonest of you to link the two. A 55 AU pertuber tossing about comets is NOT the same thing as Sumerian Gods who came and stole our gold, genetically engineering H. S. Sapiens in the process, on a planet that wanders in now and again and smashes other planets.

If, not when, that "Planet X" is found, the relationship will be wholly coincidental.

So as not to look like I'm talking to myself, A.DIM's post, that I replied to, is gone.

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

Yes, I removed mine since it was obviously OT.

As all can see, Serenitude has taken it upon himself to determine "Planet X" is a conspiracy.

I'm actually waiting for a Mod to say whether or not it really should be considered as such.

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Nice try for a setup, but I was merely following the wording of your posting, instead of correcting the details of your idea, as it really just wasn't worth it. However, you reply again in kind, bait me into answering, delete your post, quote my post, and then cry foul, attempting to make me look foolish in the process - yes, I'm interested to see the mod reaction, also. I do hope you've reported my post. Again, nice try, though

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

...seems like a long way to go for a potato.

(Sorry, just trying to share a chuckle.)

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"It is quite clear that Occam's razor does not sharpen in your pyramid." (Nicolas)

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." (Paul Simon)

I stand corrected. I would have to say that potatoes orbiting at the Kuiper Cliff would be ATM

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

A good decision , I never posted in this thread , whatever my opinion. First , because it has nothing to do with astronomy , two it give a bad image to this site , three because it is too much ideological , dividing topics without any results.You dont learn anything from these threads.

Let post on our common matter of interest : astronomy even if we disagree seriously on many issues.

As the term has been used around here by proponents, it certainly is a CT.

No. There are astronomers that are looking for more bodies in the outer solar system, and some constraints can be placed on what they could find (for instance, above a certain mass at a certain distance they would already have been noticed). There isn't much to be said about any such bodies until we have evidence for them.

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Planet X isn't CT, or ATM, or whatever, so long as the proposed idea doesn't put the cart before the horse.

Trying to show evidence pointing at a possible tenth (or ninth, according to the IAU, though I'll choke before I put it out of parentheses) planet is fine, so long as observed data is used, not overly parsed ancient myths or doomsday delusions.

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I think the point is "planet X" tends to be a generic term for a body(or bodies) that may exist based on observation or probability, and also used (because it sounds so cool) as the name for some "alien planet/planet-craft" that roams the galaxy building pryamids and moon-faces. One is an astronomy discussion and the other is...to be polite...a CT. (also better words to describe it but I'll stay within BAUT rules )

Only downfall to all this is I'll haveta go back to daily comic-strips to get my daily dose of humor, as now that the non (outer)space/science CT's are locked, CT-section activity is drastically lower

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

I see the truncated EKB, Sedna, CR105, et al. as evidence for Planet X.

No CT at all.

This is of course, regardless of my knowledge of Myth, Sitchin, etc.

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

But you know better than them, right?

You're saying that Stern, Brown, Murray, Matese, etc., regardless of how different their evidences for Planet X are, are not actively searching for the perturber?

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

If and when there is evidence for a large body in the outer solar system, it will no doubt be discussed in the Astronomy section. Nobody has ever argued that there couldn't be other bodies in the outer solar system. But anything like the Planet X claims as stated by the proponents, no. Those are CTs.

If so, why bring up such an obvious point?

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Well, I'd say it is more akin to ATM than CT, but whatever.

Because inevitably, no matter what I present as evidence, "skeptics" will attribute all I say to "sitchinism."

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Time and effort do make a difference.

It could once have been said anything I posted in any thread concerning belief would be attributable automatically as an attack on religion. Took a bit of doing, and the occassional third, fourth, or fifth edit, or sometimes just huffing and closing the editor, but I got away from that.

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"I always look for a woman who has a tattoo. I see a woman with a tattoo, and I'm thinking, 'OK, here's a gal who's capable of making a decision she'll regret in the future.'"- Richard Jeni.

I'm unsure what it is you're telling me to try, if anything at all?

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Meaning, provided you lay off the Sitchin references while trying to define what a possible Planet X is, eventually, and probably not too long afterwards, not everything you say about a Planet X will be dismissed as Sitchinism in disguise.

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"I always look for a woman who has a tattoo. I see a woman with a tattoo, and I'm thinking, 'OK, here's a gal who's capable of making a decision she'll regret in the future.'"- Richard Jeni.

Oh, I see.

The thing is, outside of Sitchin threads (of which there haven't been any in some time) I've not referred to him unless brought up by others.
Yet, countless threads have gone that direction simply because of my ideas about ETi, Planet X, etc.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Careful.

This thread is starting to turn into a Planet X (or pick a letter) discussion. I'm sure the BAUT staff would take a dim view of such a progression.

Meanwhile as mentioned in the other thread, brava/o to the admins and mods for lassoing a runaway steer! It will be nice to get back to subjects having to do with the primary reason for this BB.

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