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No stars. Flag blowing in the breeze. Non-parallel shadows. Other than that, I don't see anything unusual in the picture.
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There are three things wrong with this picture.
1-The Earth is too big 2-The flag is too short 3-There are stars visible Absolute smoking gun proof of image doctoring!!!!!!
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I have seen two things that almost got me going
as regards a hoax. One was some video of the three Apollo 13 chaps in the spacecraft when the camera pans! I presume it was a NASA re-enactment of the event for some kind of documentary. Secondly was video of one of the lunar rover excursions where the background was the same as a previous eva. I had a very hazy 33 year old recollection of the explorers going back to a site on the last outing in one of the last missions. Hope I am correct in my explanations ![]() |
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Hey, some of the letters on that ship are backwards. Pretty childish mistake if you ask me.
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![]() POCCNR (last two backwards) means Russia
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![]() I guess I should have put a smiley in the original post.
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Is it me, or is the flag Canadian?
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It's you. One can clearly see blue on the top right corner and red on the rest, though the wrinkles/shadows slightly indicate a Canadian Flag if you squint your eyes and have a lot of imagination.
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What? No-one mentioned the lack of rover tracks?
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Looks like the ship has rust , no oxygen on the moon, so there should be no rust.. ![]()
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Film was also taken of training and simulations, therefore it is possible the video or film you saw was taken by somoene else. Alternatively, it is also possible to get all three crewmen in shot by the simple method of holding the camera at arm's length and pointing it back at yourself. There was no viewfinder on the camera, and no requirement for the operator to be behind it in order for it to work (any more than there had to be somone sitting behind the rover TV camera). I'll have a quick look at my Apollo 13 DVD from Spacecraft Films and see what I can find. As for the rover footage, there is very little video of the rover in motion, since it was broadcast via the antenna on the rover and thus could only be received and recorded when the antenna was pointed at Earth. This did allow for a little video while the rover was travelling in a straight line, but nothing extensive. Most of the footage of the rover in motion was captured on 16mm film, and hence was not seen by anyone until well after the astronauts returned. It is therefore probable that you saw the footage in a documentary made after the event and that they simply spliced in the same footage twice for artistic purposes.
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I suggest using a monitor calibration website. There are tracks.
![]() Quite an impressive "Russian spaceship"! I like this cg picture, it's quite impressive. He overstressed the perspective in the footprints a bit and there's a too clear black cutout around the earth (in front of the stars), but other than that, really nicely done. But...if that ship is Russian and the astronauts American, how did they get there?
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Thanks Jason. My brother cannot remember which
hoax show he was showing me but you are probably right about a pre flight film of the Apollo 13 crew. The Lunar Rover stuff was actual video from the mounted camera as sent back to Earth. The show superimposed one bit on another to show the same rocks on the surface in the background. As I say the astronauts went back to a previous spot as far as I remember. It could even have been the same parking space outside the LEM I suppose ![]() |
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The stonecutters must think of the moon as the ultimate playground, considering the amount of pristine stone ready to be cut overthere.
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There are tracks.
Prove that those slightly greyer lines are tracks, if you can't they are just part of the moon texture and there aren't any tracks.
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Hi guys,
This is my first post here. Just thought I'd make you aware of my new video series on YouTube, entitled "Lunar Legacy". It's a 5-parter with parts 1-4 currently live. The finale will be online within the next week, unless Bart Sibrel's assassin ninjas find me first. I analyze many of the standard hoax arguments, but more specifically I focus on the silly theories of Bart Sibrel, of "A Funny Thing Happened" fame. If you're an Apollo non-believer, or just interested in seeing how many lies Sibrel can tell in the span of a 45-minute DVD, check it out. All critiques, criticisms welcome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc |
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