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Old 21-February-2007, 04:10 PM
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Fred,
i feel inclined to read this as "this stupid dunce lacks some gray matter in his cranium"....
but instead i choose to take it as some friendly sort of advise (as surely intended)

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Old 21-February-2007, 06:28 PM
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I still forgot to appologize for the harm done to English orthographics ("stupid" is correctly written with a "d" at the end and not with the German "t" as in "stupit")
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That's all right, satori. There are quite a few Americans who pronounce it "stupit". Though these days, most of those are comedians or actors trying to fake a regional accent.
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Donnie B.,
you dare call me a "comedian" and even a "fake" ....I must say....I don't approve of that kind of a tone, Young Man !!!
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Yeahhh, you got it at least !
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I just came across this sort of woo at another forum, and thought I'd post to this thread rather than begin a new one.

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The idiocy about "crossing the galactic plane in 2012 so all kinds of bad juju is gonna happen" has come up before. I don't think The Horizon Project has been mentioned by name, though.

Needless to say, (a) the solar system is not going to cross the plane of the galaxy in 2012 -- that's some tens of tousands of years off, I think, and (b) when it does cross the plane, nothing unusual is going to happen.

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I'd like to know the exact date, or the approximate one, if that's possible.

This horizon project stuff sounds like the usual new-age-sky-is-falling crap, but Wikipedia has this to say,

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the Sun oscillates up and down relative to the galactic plane approximately 2.7 times per orbit. This is very similar to how a simple harmonic oscillator works with no drag force (dampening) term. Due to the relatively higher density of stars close to the galactic plane, these oscillations often coincide with mass extinction periods on earth, presumably due to increased impact events.[33]
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http://journals.cambridge.org/action...ct?aid=1804088

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Global extinction and geological events have previously been linked with galactic events such as spiral arm crossings and galactic plane oscillation. The expectation that these are repeating predictable events has led to studies of periodicity in a wide set of biological, geological and climatic phenomena. Using data on carbon isotope excursions, large igneous provinces and impact craters, we identify three time zones of high geological activity which relate to the timings of the passage of the Solar System through the spiral arms. These zones are shown to include a significantly large proportion of high extinction periods. The mass extinction events at the ends of the Ordovician, Permian and Cretaceous occur in the first zone, which contains the predicted midpoints of the spiral arms. The start of the Cambrian, end of the Devonian and end of the Triassic occur in the second zone. The pattern of extinction timing in relation to spiral arm structure is supported by the positions of the superchrons and the predicted speed of the spiral arms. The passage times through an arm are simple multiples of published results on impact and fossil record periodicity and galactic plane half-periods. The total estimated passage time through four arms is 703.8 Myr. The repetition of extinction events at the same points in different spiral arm crossings suggests a common underlying galactic cause of mass extinctions, mediated through galactic effects on geological, solar and extra-solar processes. The two largest impact craters (Sudbury and Vredefort), predicted to have occurred during the early part of the first zone, extend the possible pattern to more than 2000 million years ago.
I'd really like to know the date of the next oscillation. (Although I'm pretty sure if it was imminent, these Cambridge scientists would have announced it directly, rather than hiding it in a pay-per-view paper.)
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I'd like to know the exact date, or the approximate one, if that's possible.
It's somewhere, probably many times, among these 2012-related topics. Maybe check the last topic, about the Eclipse of the Galactic Plane. I think someone covered the details earlier today.
  1. 2003 no, 2012 si
  2. 2012
  3. End of Mayan Calendar
  4. Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
  5. 2012 alignment question
  6. about the Mayan 2012 item
  7. 2012 Debunking?
  8. Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
  9. 2012 asteroid?
  10. We don't have to worry about 2012!
  11. More on 2012 from India Daily
  12. 2012 Completion of conspiracy?
  13. Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
  14. crop circles, Planet X and 2012
  15. Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
  16. According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
  17. More 2012 Nonsense
  18. NEO 2012?
  19. Dangerous NEO in 2012?
  20. Christmas 2012
  21. 2012 mayan calender end of world
  22. Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
  23. New 2012 threat?
  24. 2012 look at this thing on the sun
  25. Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
  26. Pole shift idea origins
  27. Dec 20 2012
  28. 2012 Stuff
  29. Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
  30. Date: December 21st 2012
  31. Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
  32. 2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
  33. So what will we see in 2012?
  34. Galactic Tsunami?
  35. Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
  36. Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
  37. 2012?
  38. Any truth to this?
  39. How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
  40. the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
  41. Planet X Official Advertisement
  42. What year are we in
  43. Quick question about the sun
  44. Galactic Alignment
  45. Books of 2012! -
  46. 2007 = 2012
  47. Return of Planet X By Rand
  48. Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
  49. Toutatis 4179: 2012?
  50. Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
  51. Solar Storms
  52. A real prediction!
  53. NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER
  54. 2012 Galactic Alignment
  55. Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~
  56. New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!!
  57. this may be a silly question but...
  58. Just to know if this is true
  59. Just Wondering...
  60. Planet X/Nibiru, is it real?
  61. Youv heard this a million times.
  62. Nibaru or Planet X
  63. Mayan calendar
  64. 2012 Article?
  65. can i say something please on planet x
  66. Nibiru
  67. The growing earth.... :P
  68. Our Solar System's Eclipse of the Galactic Plane on Dec 21, 2012?
Universe Today: No Doomsday in 2012
Bad Astronomy Blog: 2012, the year nothing will happen
Universe Today: 2012: No Planet X
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I'd like to know the exact date...
Tuesday, the 18th March 4893. About tea time. Maybe a smidgen later.

The error bars on that estimate are roughly 50Myr though...

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I'd really like to know the date of the next oscillation. (Although I'm pretty sure if it was imminent, these Cambridge scientists would have announced it directly, rather than hiding it in a pay-per-view paper.)
It's worth remembering that one orbit of the sun around the galactic centre takes approximately 250,000,000 years and the oscillation occurs less than a handful of times during that period. The word imminent and time frames of megayears aren't often used in conjunction.
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Old 27-May-2008, 07:55 AM
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Hahahaha!

Been there, done that, hey?

Thanks.
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Old 27-May-2008, 09:21 AM
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Oh dear.

For some reason I had in mind the Pluto probe New Horizons when I read the title of the thread. I thought:[quote]That IS a good question. I haven't heard much about "New Horizons" being part of a CT related to studying Niburu/Planet X, although I'm sure it's out there...[/i]

Google sent me here though, as well as the Horizon Project homepage, complete with Live Support!

There were a bunch of other "Horizon Projects", but this seemed like the most likely candidate. How close am I?
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Old 27-May-2008, 09:50 AM
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That hole they're looking for near the North Pole - I hope they have a good supply of aqualungs for the intrepid explorers - Google earth shows that location as being quite clearly mid ocean.
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north polar opening that leads into the interior of the earth is located at 84.4 N Latitude, 141 E Longitude
Maybe Sean Connery could take them in a Russian submarine?
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[edit]There were a bunch of other "Horizon Projects", but this seemed like the most likely candidate. How close am I?
Too close for comfort.

Same old eschatological glob we'll continue to see until humanity grows up.
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Old 27-May-2008, 10:04 AM
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Too close for comfort.

Same old eschatological glob we'll continue to see until humanity grows up.
Drat.

Why can't I do this in a darts game? Or better yet, I heard this quote in class once. From the teacher!
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Well, let me put it this way. My golf score is higher than my bowling score...
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That made my day, and many days since.

In other thoughts, perhaps there is a rather large water slide? Or Jules Verne, bless his heart, was right and there's a volcano which we can use to enter! We just can't see it cuz, uh...
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In other thoughts, perhaps there is a rather large water slide? Or Jules Verne, bless his heart, was right and there's a volcano which we can use to enter! We just can't see it cuz, uh...
Possibly because they painted it pink and installed a Somebody Else's Problem Field...
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This is bogus too, they said the same thing when all the planets were aligning in a straight line, nothing happened except i took some awesome photo's of the planet grouping through my 4 inch vixen refractor.
Then you have that "Planet X" ooooooo, sorry the brown dwarf IE planet X already passed us by, missed the earth by a little over 8 light years (one light year in the simple mans view is three orbits around the sun on pluto, or roughly 263 earth years for one orbit)
secondly, brown dwarfs dont move through the galaxy like comets, if there was a brown dwarf in our solar system say approaching pluto, we'd be dead all ready!

2012 prediction is bogus, the asteroid strike 2014 and 2036 are BS. that strange metallic object in greenland is science fiction, doesnt exsist, go check out www.spaceflight.nasa.gov and see if they have any of those pictures of greenland on their satelite imagery, you wont find any, also go check www.intellicast.com, this is a commerical weather station that also gives pilots conditions and minuite by minuite updates on ice, wid direction, windshear. and magnetic storm info services. you wont find the mysterious object in greenland there either.

POLE SHIFT i read that a pole shift is happening now and by 2012 america will be where new zealand is now. well it would tale more than an impact of an asteroid the gravitational pulls of planet X and an astronomical event of a universal galactial alignment to cause a poleshift on this planet, and believe me if a poleshift occurs it wont be in a matter of years or months, it will take 8 minuites.

i'd be more affraid of that collider in europe than an asteroid hit or nuclear strike.
its all a bunch of <inappropriate language removed>!

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Quote from the "North Pole Inner Earth Expedition" web-site on their scientific objectives:
It is strongly believed that the scientific data collected on this Expedition will be invaluable to understanding the true structure of the Earth. If the oceanic depression can be located and measured, the geological team may qualify for the Nobel Prize in Geology. If the Aurora Borealis can be affirmed to originate from the inner Earth, the entire field of planetary physics may be rewritten. If the Earth can be proven to be hollow, the Expedition may be the most profound discovery since the Earth was discovered to revolve around the sun... End Quote

there are so many faults already in the very first paragraph !!!! I gave up after half a page. What a Crock!
So here are my two cents for what this Dr. Angnew Brooks stands for.

#1 there is no Nobel Prize for Geology! But let him try and apply - good riddance.

#2 Having an Aurora Borealis coming from a hole at the north pole doesn't explain why there is some at the south pole as well. Of course, any hole in the ground would have been spotted long since and that would spoil the fun of an expedition.

#3 where does all the water go if there is a hole in the shell of our hollow planet? How do we replenish? Or is this the way doom lies? Not a gravitational perturbance will wreck havoc onto our unfortunate planet but it will be later found (i.e. by Nibiru's denizens) to have drained all its waters through a hole the hapless inhabitants of the third rock from the sun discovered to late.

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They got it all wrong as usual, the key to the hollow earth lies in this note:

"In Sneffels Joculis craterem, quem delibat umbra Scartaris, Julii intra kalendas descende, audax viator, et terrestre centrum attinges; quod feci. Arne Saknussemm"
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They deleted the above wordpress article.
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Last night I was watching TV and Dr. Kaku (I think that is his name) refreshed my memory by stating that the solar system passes through the galactic plane every 26 million years. That, supposedly disturbs the comets in the Oort Cloud and sends some hurtling inward, towards the sun. Right now we are right in the middle of the cycle, so look out, we will pass through the plane again in 13 million years!! Add 2 cycles plus 13 mil. years, (26 mil. plus 26 mil. plus 13 mil. equals ?? mil!!) Hmmm.
A poster said that a meteor strike in 2036 is BS, we hope so. Kaku also talked about this. He said there is an asteroid that will probably pass below the geosynchronous orbit satellites in 2028, if it passes through a place in space (near Earth) called the keyhole, it will make 3 revs. then give us a kiss in 2036!! Odds say it will miss the keyhole.

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