Ever travelled on the London Underground?

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Based on this picture of the day from APOD and the idea that Tesla space is very stiff ... at some point there should be a change in the way and the angle that we perceive our galaxy.

The idea is that if you draw a circle using the line of the galaxy as a diameter the picture should be of the outer stars as a series of spirals symmetric to the centre of the galaxy. If the calendar is to reach a turning point then the circle will become the new line of the galaxy and the current galaxy will become the outer cylindrical spiral of stars and clusters.


I was not aware of that, from my understanding he was a very learned man and a physician to the people at a time of great sickness. After the death of his wife and son was when he took on the other role. I am amazed at the level of dislike for one who took such great risks to give the interpretations of events in the way that he did in the age that he lived in.

The work for which Nostradamus is best noted today cannot honestly have taken that much of his effort to produce. His entire prophetic opus can be read in less than half a day. So I agree it's unfair to paint his entire life's work by what popular opinion emphasizes.

But to those who make a study of belief, Nostradamus' prophecies aren't really anything to shout about. The Nostradamus effect is just an example of what happens when you marry vague writings with people determined to interpret them as some sort of foretelling. It might be harsh to say he was "exposed as a fraud," but it's my opinion that the only importance in Nostradamus' writings are those which are put there by hopeful people just doing what people naturally do.

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So, appearently you're basing your conclusions on your own, subjective reasoning?

It probably would have been "more proper" to simply say that NONE of Nostrodamus predictions has been shown to be correct, and left it at that.

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Michel de Notredame trained as an apothecary, and was later expelled from medical school when his previous training as an apothecary came to light. (It was a trade that was forbidden medical training at the time.) So to the extent he practised as a physician he was a fraud. His medical fame was built on dispensing a pill said to protect against the plague, which it demonstrably did not: so to that extent he was also a fraud.

Not much more of a fraud, then, than most medical practitioners of the time.

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I will admit that I gave it a lot of thought. So as the good people here are Astronomers ... you will indeed be the first to know if the heavens move

You see a phrase like that, and your internal junk alert starts flashing.

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I believe it is important to look at the times he lived in. For a start his grandfather converted from Jewish to Christian to avoid the persecution of those times. Although the records are scarce there is a belief that his father practiced as a physician to local nobility and may have passed on his knowledge of medicines. In 1525 Nostradamus was not registered to make his own medicines but the medicines from the apothecaries was known at the time to lack some ingredients presumably due to profiteering by those not wishing to add expensive ingredients to their medicines.

Perhaps with the knowledge of his early learning he was aware of the shortfalls in some medicines and knew enough to know what he needed or wanted in his. Which ever way he acquired fame as a healer. It was an apothecary that reported him for not buying the medicines from the guild of apothecaries. In 1529 the situation was resolved and he was no longer in conflict with the authorities.

In those times unlike today literacy was very low and so being able to read and write like knowledge was power. Also unlike today those in authority withheld that knowledge from the ordinary people for personal gain.

We have come a long way in nearly 500 years now that ingredients listed must be present in the quantities stated. Or have we? I believe that while there is a lot of noise about how many good ingredients foods and the like contain ... there is pressure to withhold information of not so healthy ingredients. How hard is it to give approximate calorie counts on a known quantity? Especially when due to human nature it may be even more profitable due to reward eating. That is I ordered something healthy and so I will now spend more here and reward myself with a treat.

I suffer no such problem as I treat myself to chocolate whenever I like because I know at some stage I will not be eating and therefore deserve a reward knowing that at some point in time I will be good, not because of it

I know all about treats. There is a definite connection between them and remorse. Maybe remorse isn't exactly the right word ... cramps ... indigestion ... stimulus for a better diet or a Pepsid (antiacid), you decide.