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The word "probably" was a clue.
Rather insufficient. That just means, of course, that it is likely, without much doubt -- not that we are merely hearing results of your particular assumptions about what the apparently nonexistent scientist was thinking.

Much better hints to your readers would have been words like "I assume" or "my guess is" or "according to my experience" and such. Of course.
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And he's got a political solution for THAT?

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Sure does. Elect him and he will SAVE us: http://www.mrinbetween.com/pages/banner.htm

"While yet there is still enough time left to Unite enough of this worlds' civilized and compatible citizenries of people to build my NEW WORLD for millions of compatible citizens who will vote for or otherwise put me into power by any means possible and make me become their Leader, so I can get started right away at running everything according to the Majority of the people to be under my Leadership on any issue as I direct them to build shelter for themselves and an escape vehicle built for the end of the world as soon as I can get the Majority of The People's votes in a political Referendum or by a military takeover I take over Power in America for the good of Western man!"

Apparently just like Adolph Hitler tried to do that for Germany:

"The other visionary with radical plans, Adolph Hitler, also knew that the Earths' magnetic core, from both ends of it, was rising on a northwesterly course heading for a collision with the terrestrial crust of the Earth, and wanted to save his people off of this doomed planet as fast as he could, even though he did not realize he did not have enough military personnel and the weapons necessary to accomplish his goal, and now time is getting too late to save even only but a few people on down to maybe only two people at the very least to send to Mars or Titan."

This website is just TOO hilarious---I can't resist. Someone stop me! ;-)
P.S.: This guy really makes Nancy Lieder look NORMAL!
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Well, he certainly is the leader of the run-on sentence.

And who knew that Hitler was concerned about the Earth's core; that certainly explains the invasion of Poland.
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Smile I finally found the source....

In case anyone lost any sleep over this ;-):
I wouldn't let go of this , because I came across it again in some "new age" website. So I finally Googled "india+astrophysists+computer model +magnetic reversal" and voila! http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/1753.asp
You know for some reason I had India Daily in the back of my head...and their "science" leaves much to be, uh, desired... (D**n, I'm good!)
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From the India Daily link
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According to the Hyderabad Computer Model, the polar reversal of Earth and Sun can cause the following serious problems other than electronic malfunction, migrating birds losing sense of direction and so on:

- the immune system of all animals including the humans will weaken substantially

- the earth's crust will experience increasing volcanoes, tectonic movements, earthquakes and landslides

- Earth's Magnetosphere will weaken and Cosmic Radiation from Sun will increase many folds making radiation hazards like cancer and so on inevitable

- Large Asteroids will be drawn towards the Earth

- the Earth's gravitational field will experience a change though no one knows how it will change
Who knew that the Earth's magnetic field helped to strength our immune system and repelled asteroids.
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Okay, I am an alumni of University Of Hyderabad. (I did my masters in computers applications BTW) and I am really interested in these references to my University. It is a pretty respected institute in India and as far from all this woo woo as anything I can imagine.

I checked the video on you tube and the guy seems to say "hyberdat". Correct me if I am wrong. The article on India Daily refers to a 'A private research and analysis company in Hyderabad' not the University Of Hyderabad. I would be grateful if somebody could point out link where the institute is connected to results of this kind.

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Who knew that the Earth's magnetic field helped to strength our immune system and repelled asteroids.



Shouldn't that be hemorrhoids
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All this talk about global disaster in 2012, I think it is being spread by the evil British gub'mint. Get everyone talking about global disaster, then they won't notice the London Olympic Village isn't ready, and won't be ready until 2017 .....
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All this talk about global disaster in 2012, I think it is being spread by the evil British gub'mint. Get everyone talking about global disaster, then they won't notice the London Olympic Village isn't ready, and won't be ready until 2017 .....
Of course, since the games are July/August, and the EOW (End of World) is supposedly December 21, the Brits would still have about five months of embarrassment.

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Just when we thought 2012 couldn't get any worse, after the embarrassment of having to cancel the 2012 Olympic Games because we could finish the equestrian track in time, now comes word that the world will end tomorrow. Well, at least we won't be number one on those lists for "Top Ten Worst Things about 2012".
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Okay, I am an alumni of University Of Hyderabad. (I did my masters in computers applications BTW) and I am really interested in these references to my University. It is a pretty respected institute in India and as far from all this woo woo as anything I can imagine.

I checked the video on you tube and the guy seems to say "hyberdat". Correct me if I am wrong. The article on India Daily refers to a 'A private research and analysis company in Hyderabad' not the University Of Hyderabad. I would be grateful if somebody could point out link where the institute is connected to results of this kind.

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The article does not provide any link and and after exhaustive research I could find no reference to the "research" other than the claims of the video which I assume were provided by the India Times article. And we have had discussions on the board before noting that the India Times is kind of like The National Enquirer: entertaining, with a few facts here and there but not to be believed ; (that is, form the few articles I have read by them, mostly centered on 2012). However, before I found the India Times article I came across this organisation: http://geongrid.org/workshops/ciw_uofhyd/
which seems to do some reasearch backed by the University. I had emailed them prior and they ignored me, probably thought I was nuts,but it does seem to be focussed on doing Earth Science studies. So if you can get through to them let us know, post it here. I wonder if they really did those studies....?
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thanks 2001Intrepid,
I will look into the issue and let you guys know what I dig up.
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What needs to be taught to new nuclear nations at the United Nations, like Iran Korea India USA UK Russia etc.; is that waste products from testing & experimenting with nuclear explosions, should cease, while continuing nuclear energy research production.
The dangers are to all earth.(NOW)
Examples: operations Starfish Prime & HiVolt. (destroying the Van Allen Belts!)
The Van Allen Belts are not completely understood even today; let alone back in 1962; when the only thought was to get safely to the moon first.
If the VAB were so safe for moon astronauts in 1969+ why did they want to drive a tunnel thru them?
If HiVolt is performed to anhialate the VAB then I guess we need to clear off planet earth.
Screwing up the VAB's and upper atmospheres is dangerous in every conceivable way.
Combining all the pollutions of wars and oil and smoke pollutions injected around our planet with projects like HiVolt and Starfish Prime , is scientific moral and strategic suicide.
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The Van Allen Belts are not completely understood even today; let alone back in 1962; when the only thought was to get safely to the moon first.

The Van Allen belts are understood sufficiently for profitable, private, commercial spacefaring to occur in and beyond them.

By 1968 the nature of the Van Allen belts was known to the extent that it was considered reasonably safe for a well-built manned spacecraft to spend a number of hours in them with no adverse effect on its occupant.

If the VAB were so safe for moon astronauts in 1969+ why did they want to drive a tunnel thru them?

That was not the goal of Starfish Prime. Starfish Prime and other elements of Operation Dominic proposed to study how nuclear detonations might be used in warfare toward various ends. The objectives of Starfish Prime, according to the Dept. of Defense, were

1. Evaluation of missile kill mechanisms produced by a high altitude nuclear detonation.
2. Evaluation of the effects of a high altitude nuclear detonation on electromagnetic surveillance capability.
3. Evaluation of the effects of a high altitude nuclear detonation on long range communications.
4. Investigation of the basic characteristics of a high altitude nuclear detonation and the physical basis of the effects.
5. Evaluation of high altitude nuclear detonation weapon diagonistic techniques.
6. Evaluation of high altitude nuclear detonation detection systems.

(Francis Narin and Maj. Walter Dumas. A Quick Look at the Technical Results of Starfish Prime. Aug. 1962, p. 10)

Contrary to conspiracy theories, Starfish Prime was not expected to blow a hole in the Van Allen belts. It was intended to test whether a precursor high-altitude nuclear detonation might blind enemy radar to subsequent incoming missiles and destroy his ability to use radar-based defenses against them. It was discovered that the electromagnetic pulse generated by a high-altitude, high-order detonation was still too weak to effectively compromise radar-based defense.
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It was discovered that the electromagnetic pulse generated by a high-altitude, high-order detonation was still too weak to effectively compromise radar-based defense.
Bummer. There goes the plot of Goldeneye.
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Bummer. There goes the plot of Goldeneye.


Double Bummer, You got there before me
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Wait, what? Goldeneye had a plot?
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Well, if you take some time off from ogling Isabella Scorupco... um, guess not.
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Eh!...... now you come to mention it, No
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Stupid magnetic fields. I've read stuff about the Sun apparently going mental too. I have had people getting worried that the Suns field will flip..... (duh of course it will it does it all the time during peak activity) Also some weird stuff about asteroids and comets coming to get us all in that year. I had enough. I used to worry about it a bit until I realised that it was all a bit too much and it is too silly to worry about. Much too silly. I really must say I am starting to hate people who advocate this stuff. I have seen a few people who are really worried about these things. People who think they are going to die and they are getting depressed. All this so some people can sell a few books....... it's wrong.

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Another jerk trying to sell books: http://www.survive2012.com/
I just went to this site to post it up, and the guy who runs it has recently posted:

"There is zero scientific evidence that anything will happen, but there are numerous things that could easily threaten the human species in the year 2012, such as a geomagnetic reversal, asteroid strike or supernova. Or soemthing more intimate, like a flu pandemic, or a nuclear war."

Definately wasnt there a few months ago, but i digress, you'll find that most of the people preaching 2012 have a book out about it. The other people preaching, simply read the book or heard from someone who probably read a book about the subject.
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NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist as of December 16th, 2008

Here is the latest data on the anomaly, I cannot even begin to fathom this if anyone is hot on this let us know please. I included the link, because I am not even gonna try to layman term this into the forum. I wonder why NASA has not gone to the major news affiliates with this finding?

Guess it was not that important.

Think I will sit outside and toast some marshmallows this Christmas! Heh-heh!
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http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...eld-break.html

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http://www.space.com/common/media/vi...ar_storm_promo


Smoke if ya got em! Just joking we should not see anything significant until about 5 or 6 years, maybe some electrical and communications adjustments will be needed.

That is about all that is out there new on this Magnetic anomaly and I am sure it is not (sigh) Nibiru or Inner Earth related.
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NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist as of December 16th, 2008

Here is the latest data on the anomaly, I cannot even begin to fathom this if anyone is hot on this let us know please. I included the link, because I am not even gonna try to layman term this into the forum. I wonder why NASA has not gone to the major news affiliates with this finding?

Guess it was not that important.

Think I will sit outside and toast some marshmallows this Christmas! Heh-heh!
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Smoke if ya got em! Just joking we should not see anything significant until about 5 or 6 years, maybe some electrical and communications adjustments will be needed.

That is about all that is out there new on this Magnetic anomaly and I am sure it is not (sigh) Nibiru or Inner Earth related.
So is this something that you consider a serious issue and something to be concerned with? Not being snide, just trying to get the opinion of someone more knowlegable than I. Is this a major problem that the breach is now apparently much larger than we thought?
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Just letting you guys know this thread was started a really long time ago
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Not really that long ago, just a couple of years if that. As long as research is still being done on a topic I think it should garner a bit of retrospect and updating. Time is of no consequence. Time is relative on outcome of the research or further analysis. This topic will never be "old". Given the importance of such a topic I think it should remain open. Agreed?
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So is this something that you consider a serious issue and something to be concerned with? Not being snide, just trying to get the opinion of someone more knowlegable than I. Is this a major problem that the breach is now apparently much larger than we thought?

Well take the breach and the progress or advancement and track it by the numbers of years you think you have to live in the environment. I am just delivering an update. It is up to those who feel it is important to the math. I am more than sure if you really watched the video by BP, you will see the National Defense repercussions and I am sure NASA has taken appropriate steps to fortify the inner walls of the International Space Station or created safe zones for emergencies, and probably upgraded the EVA suits a long time ago to compensate for this. If you do a current seach on Wikipedia you can see how the breach has progress.

As far as I am concerned, I believed I said we might see some modifications to communications systems and so forth being needed in 3 to 6 years.

Since, I am just a layman, I cannot formulate, but only state a hypothesis I ran across in regards to this subject. I am not qualified to make further assumptions or projections.
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Oh and all this is hinged on the 11 and 22 year cycle of the Sun. Also peak output and sunspot activity will be vital in testing the "breach". Depending on where Sol is or not in the cycles is important I think. I found another website I have been using to educate myself. It does seem to be based in solid research and not the New Age wave a bone at the stars hoopla and tomfoolery.

Here ya go:
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...lar_cycle.html

Now this is a compilation of data from 1700 to 1995 and is provided by NOAA and NGDC the only organizations I trust on this subject.
I hope someone else is reading this with some new evidence to add or maybe detract.

I really like this one from a simple layman perspective. By the way, is anyone on here a member of the American Astronomical Society? I think it has about 5900 members in the US.

So maybe we might have one or two in our midst. I hope!!!
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