The poll sounds a great idea, but I have no idea how we could go about setting one up!

It is often quoted (but I don't know how true it is) that there are a far higher percentage of the British population online than most other European countries - that is as a percentage of their overall population. I THINK the Dutch follow in those stats, but please don't quote me on that! This could be the reason you see more brits than most other europeans .....

As for the Aussies, they just drink beer, and are too damn good at cricket!

No, not silliness, far from it. I think it would be useful to obtain this type of information somehow, but I have absolutely no idea how!

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I have also noticed what seems like a disportionally large number of British people who believe this stuff, but it is not all from the negative side. I run a web page about space technology and I tend to get a lot inquiries and comments from people in the UK. It seems to me there is just a large percentage of British people on the Internet who have an interest in space related topics, whether it be enthusiasm for space exploration or belief in the Apollo hoax. For those who hear only from the HB side, one could easily think that such belief is more common in the UK than elsewhere, but my experience tells me the HB versus non-HB sides are in about the same proportion as other countries.

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I really hope the "No offense intended" also counts for this remark. There are lots of good brickfilms out there, even though they're done with LEGO bricks.

(Sorry for hijacking, but I feel it's my duty to stand up for a film category that really deserves some respect.)

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I for one have seen quite enough of Jarrah White to just wait and not react until he makes a correctly argumented, facts based claim not including any mispresented claims from others, or personal attacks (legal threats included).

I have been waiting for quite a few months now . Sometimes I still wake up in the middle of the night, from a dream about his proposed apollo orbit, laughing so hard that my pillow implodes. I must say though, that was one of the argumented, non-personal claims he made, which was refreshing. Too bad it didn't take physics or history into account, in none of its versions.

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To paraphrase Arthur Balfour:

"All this contains much that is obviously rude, and much that is funny; unfortunately, what is obviously rude is not funny, and what is funny is not obviously rude."

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In Oz the people I have met who have expressed HB sentiments have vague recollections of something on TV . . .

A Coke can?

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Mezzotinto, 1850

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Hmmm, I was referring to This Attempt The obligatory reference to HH2G as required by the Great Publishing Houses of Ursa Minor....

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So his death might have been a bit less violent, but I'm quite sure the author of that 1850 sonnet is dead as well. I'm starting to see a pattern here...

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Wow, really? I just learned something Bert. Sorry, I thought that little pursuit was unique to Jarrah W.

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Was J.W.'s "idea of a polar orbit" discussed on this forum? I'm curious about it.

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Not really. IIRC what it was was a circular orbit keeping the CM entirely above the polar circle, which is completely impossible for an unpowered orbit (and nothing that has ever been built has the ability to maintain that sort of orbit for more than a matter of minutes).

Thanks for that. ...amusing

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I supect that most HBers outside the US were this way long before the recent unpleasantness. Mentioning recent events is simply their way of illustrating why they think the US gov. is untrustworthy. Plus of course the fact that recent US foreign policies are so widely disliked that by linking them to the hoax they might win people over. Guilt by association.

The argument is

"Apollo is a hoax and recent events show how untrustworthy the US is"

Not

"Recent events show that the US goverment must have hoaxed Apollo"

[Language and exposure? Australians and Britons will discuss in English, most other people won't. Plus most of the HB material - books, web sites, TV programs, are in English. The fact you have the odd person from the Netherlands may support this. Most people under the age of 50 in the Netherlands speak good English. But no everybody in the world does.

Jon

Not in my experience. I have yet to meet someone who was anti American in general - or even strong opposed to recent US policies - who then said that Apollo must be a hoax.

The HBers certainly include people whose paranoia makes them a few sausages short of a BBQ. But among their tranks are perfectly normal people who just aren't interested enough or know enough about the topic to go further. They just read or saw something somewhere and have a few mental questions. Rather like people who might wonder if a certain Australian Prime Minister might in fact still be living in China.

The temptation to dismiss HBers as being motivated by genuinely anti American sentiments should, I think be rejected. It is too simplicistic and does not reflect the fact that most of the ideas originate in the US.

Jon

Jon

Oddly enough, given the fact is was the local contribution to the mythos, no. It's the usual stuff about flags and balloons. often it is not even this specific, just the seed of FUD.

Jon