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Old 12-May-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default The fox moon hoax special

For those of you who have yearned to see the fox moon hoax special, I found it online free of charge.

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Make sure you're not eating or drinking anything.
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Old 12-May-2007, 02:37 AM
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I'm still too scared to actually watch that thing. Might make good fodder for the Agony Booth though. http://www.agonybooth.com
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Old 12-May-2007, 09:11 AM
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I will keep that link for a day when I am too overoptimistic about life, the universe and everything.
This will ground me again. For sure.
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Old 13-May-2007, 02:23 PM
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You must watch it. Its hillarious. when you get struck by the realisation that people take it seriously, you'll experience a sort of out of body experience, then you may find yourself throwing things at the television!
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You must watch it. Its hillarious. when you get struck by the realisation that people take it seriously, you'll experience a sort of out of body experience, then you may find yourself throwing things at the television!
And exactly because of this, I will keep it for those overoptimistic days.
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Old 13-May-2007, 06:21 PM
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That is painful to watch because of it's sheer stupidity.
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Old 13-May-2007, 08:55 PM
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Anyone know how to save this? I know some people who would get a laugh and a half out of this....
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Old 13-May-2007, 09:18 PM
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Anyone know how to save this? I know some people who would get a laugh and a half out of this....
Go over to Google Video (where the video is actually hosted) and a swift search for "Fox Apollo" which finds this as the first result then click on the download button in the bar on the right, you will probably need to get the Google Video Player though.
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Go over to Google Video (where the video is actually hosted) and a swift search for "Fox Apollo" which finds this as the first result then click on the download button in the bar on the right, you will probably need to get the Google Video Player though.
If you click on the "manual download" you will get a .gvp file which contains this URL which is a direct link to the .avi file.
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Old 14-May-2007, 02:42 AM
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I'll just say I'm not in the targeted demographic, and leave it at that.
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I recorded it on VHS back in 2001. It led me to this site.

Meanwhile the tape is probably rewriting itself, due to the effects of the Van Halen belts and the impact of interstellar dust, cosmic rays, and, in the case of BS, comic rays.
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Sorry to bring this up, but the comments by Brian O'Leary (5:17-) that a hoax was possible, have then been dealt with here or on Clavius?
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Old 14-May-2007, 07:44 PM
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Sorry to bring this up, but the comments by Brian O'Leary (5:17-) that a hoax was possible, have then been dealt with here or on Clavius?
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Old 14-May-2007, 08:11 PM
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Thanks for that

Can not think why I did not use the search facility there as I asked for it

I remembered with the Baron bit

I do have to say though, the way the NASA official was edited, he came across as the hand waver, is this a Fox trick?
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Old 14-May-2007, 08:31 PM
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Can not think why I did not use the search facility there as I asked for it

And thanks for making me put it in. Normally when I want to find something on the site, I go to my local copy and grep (i.e., search) for it in the raw files. Normal web users can't do that.

I do have to say though, the way the NASA official was edited, he came across as the hand waver, is this a Fox trick?

Hard to say. We haven't seen the raw footage of the interview, naturally. Brian Welch died unexpectedly not long after this program first aired. That alone caused some stir among conspiracy theorists. But Welch was quoted saying he was not pleased with the answers he had given (even before the program aired), so I think some of Welch's lackluster performance might be due to his admitted unfamiliarity with the subject, and some of it due to creative editing such as they did with O'Leary and Paul Fjeld. (I'm told Fjeld threatened to sue for having misrepresented him.)

Technically Fox did not produce the program. It was produced by Nast Entertainment and aired on Fox.
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Old 15-May-2007, 05:20 AM
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We need you over here in the UK, maybe we could approach the DfES for some grant

Shame about Bob Welch, what happened to him
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Technically Fox did not produce the program. It was produced by Nast Entertainment and aired on Fox.
Sibrel claims it was based on one of his productions, from a tape he originally sent to Fox.

Any truth to that AFAYK?
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I'll just say I'm not in the targeted demographic, and leave it at that.
Oh, I definately don't want it for educational purposes. I have a few freinds who will literally laugh themselves breathless. Purely for comedic value
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Old 15-May-2007, 01:57 PM
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Sibrel claims it was based on one of his productions, from a tape he originally sent to Fox.
Any truth to that AFAYK?


I have no specific evidence either way. But since the Fox program doesn't follow any of Sibrel's major points (e.g., the "secret" footage) I have a hard time believing that Sibrel was the source. It looks more like Nast based his program on Kaysing's work.

There's more infighting among the major conspiracy authors than the average reader knows. I talk to people who try to arrange interviews with them for mass media, and their stories about dealing with them are sometimes quite educational. It's entertaining to hear about who won't appear with whom, and who accuses whom privately of having stolen his material. I bring this up because it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Sibrel had absolutely nothing to do with the Fox program and is trying to grab credit for it.

Fox has all but disowned it. When Fox took over distributing Mark Gray's excellent DVD sets, he told me they felt it was in partial atonement for having aired the conspiracy program. Apparently what they felt would be the next Alien Autopsy phenomenon turned into a major black eye.
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[edit]Apparently what they felt would be the next Alien Autopsy phenomenon turned into a major black eye.
Hence the outcome of the (excuse me) Buzzkill.
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