Thanks, Jay; quite right as usual.

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Especially if they're 4-sided dice, and you step on them. Ouch.

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or east facing. or west facing..
maybe it depends on where you put the front door.
and if it is truly north facing, is that the magnetic north, or the other north?

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The.. Best.. Thread..Ever...

This is a really funny thread, not just for its humor content, but also for the funny feeling that the "specimens" are probably hidden under a rug with unusual patterns on it.

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Hint: if you want people to believe that your meteorites that you found in Canada while you were living in Canada are still located in Canada, use Canadian rather than German coins -germany, as in the country where you live now- as a size reference on their pics.

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@ JayUtah;

I do understand, what you´re saying but unfortunatelly, I can not involve myself in your conversatione because I do not know anything about such things...

So you come to a science-oriented site that has a reputation for critically examining claims such as yours, post your claims using terms you admit you don't understand, and then tell me you can't involve yourself in the discussion. What exactly are you here for then?

You´re being very sarcastic, aren´t you??? I´m here because I´ve got something, that is new to science and Interesting. The Terms that I don´t understand, are "scientific" terms! Just like Judges, Engineers like yourself, Doctors and so many more have their own language with their own vocabulary of speech. An outsider couldn´t understand what you´d talk about, if he´d heared you and nether would you, if you´d listen to someone, not at your level of understanding. And that was, what I was trying to tell you, that I don´t understand so many scientific terms. You could also present it in such a way, so anyone would understand it, since this is also a Forum for people that do this on a hobby basis, right?

If I had any advice for you it would be to avoid using words and concepts you don't understand.
I DO understand the Term "FOSSIL" and "Meteorite" and because I´m using that term, "Cosmic - Radiation", means to me only, that there is something there, THAT "I" can´t understand and if You KNOW, what it is, ...that kind of appearance of Radiation, then please DO explane it to all of us, ...if you can!

There are people here who frankly do understand them, and on that basis can tell fairly certainly that your claims are hogwash.
You´re just being jealous and probably are getting paid by NASA to make me shut up, because their name is now in the sling. But please do keep up your critical and negative sarcasm, that makes the Fossil Meteorites even more valuable just like Art Paintings. When they get too much by known critics criticized, then the value of that painting increases.

There, you will see all kinds of colour full radiation that I photographed by concentrating very hard on it.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
It just means something different for me as it does for you, very simple. Just like Einstein. When he presented his relativity Theory, a lot of scientists didn´t understand him either OR DIDN´T WANT to understand him because all they wanted was, to just brush it under the carpet for Gods sake, isn´t it like that here too Jay in Utah?

That, I can not "Yet" explane, but it does happens.

So you photograph "radiation" but you don't know how it gets there or what causes it, but you know it's radiation and you know you create it by concentrating really, really hard.

Um... right. ...Ahm,..."Right"! Those are my Terms, the way I understand it but again, you don´t because you have a different kind of understanding under that Term. When you go to your Doctor and tell him, that your stomache hurts because you slipt and hurt yourself there somehow, would you talk to him in Your scientific vocabularis - Language or would you rather talk to him in a way, that he understands you? And he talks back, "well, it seems that it is a abdominal fraction! Would you understand that"???

And you want people to pay you for this extraordinary ability?
I Never said anything about wanting people to pay for me for that ability!!! You should read between the lines, then you´d understand it better. I only mentioned it for all of the interested scientists out there, if they´d like to experiment with me or on it. The Brain is such an potential organ, it´s not only to be used for like finding Meteorites or packing satellites into rockets.

Fossman, this is a NASA sponsored board. We are all being paid by NASA.

Can you already see the black helicopters coming to get you?

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Bonus points comparing yourself to Einstein: check.
Bonus points for going for the martyr role: check.
Bonus points for giving yourself more abilities than the average person: check.
Bonus points for involving loads of money somewhere: check.
Bonus points for ad hominems: check.
Bonus poins for going on the paid disinfo agent route: check.
Bonus points for involving oneself in a personal cultus: check.
Bonus points for holding back any evidence: can't put a full check there, as you have shown quite some pics of what you call meteorites. That's good.

And now for something constructive: anyone with some experience in the field of rocks, call it geology if you like, or anyone with experience in meteorites, call them space rocks if you like, have comments on the pics of the alleged meteorites? Because that is the only thing we can go by, the only thing with a touch of objectivity here.

http://picasaweb.google.com/AutumCre...lienMeteoriten

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He is not even using valid coins...

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I'm thinking maybe a fossil coral. For example, scroll through some of the pictures from this USGS website. (about halfway down) or this one from the Iowa Dept. of Natural Resources. It also might be a Stromatolite, a fossilized algal mounds, such as this image from this University of Hawaii website.

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Hipvicente;

...I will open another Thread, regarding UFOs and Pyramids but I will still answer all of those questioners asked here. After that, I´ll met you there. Thanks.

An invisible Reptoid, how did you managed to figure out that it was a Reptoid and not a Gnome or an Elf?
Destiny prepares us for many things that we will experience in the Future. Way, way, way back then, I too read a lot about UFOs, Aliens, Reptoids - they´re only interested in Technology's, I still don´t understand, what he´d lost in my room that early morning? ...and the Grey's, they do all of the dirty work like kidnapping Humans and so on.
This is hard to explane! I somehow saw and then again didn´t saw him. He was of a great stature like a body builder. Dark greenish in color and had things hanging over his chest, like caring cases with instruments, like Spok in Star Trek.

I don´t know if you understand that term, but I "sensed" him! It´s like, you´re walking nights alone through an allay and you sense some kind of a danger ahead of you. The closer you get to that point, the uneasier it gets. It´s like you´re entering an unknown Matrix or I better say Matter, or else jayUtahs going to come after me again! Another good example for it would be, ...do you like to Dive? The deeper you enter that water, the more pressure your body will feel and that´s the kind of sensual feeling that I´m talking about,... understood JayUtah?

When you´re out there in the wilderness, your ESP, Extra Sensory Persephone increases dramatically or you just program yourself for it because there are all kinds of danger out there too. Like Black Bears with cubs or wolfs or Sasquatches, also known as Big Foot!

And what tells you that he's from another dimension?
...I guess because Reptoids don´t live in our Neighbor hood. But there are Bluish Blooded Human looking Aliens that live in India. They´re the surviver from Agartha Alpha and Beta. Once in a while, they are being seen due to their bluish Body color. They live in little city's underground, a couple hundred meters and come up only to sell their crafts.

About the photos via concentration, can I do it with a digital camera?
Yes you can! I did it also a couple times already. You can photograph what ever you´d like with a digital camera.

Is it just a matter of concentrating, pointing the camera at random and pressing the button?
It IS the concentration! You may try it your way and now, I´ll tell you my way. Before I take a photograph, I choose the area, where I want it to happen and then I concentrate with or without a crystal. Sucking the crystal energy out of it and then back into the camera, imagining, what I want there to appear. Most of the time, that what I want doesn´t appear (This comment here is just for JayUtah, It´s like pouring Oil into the flame, right jay?) ...but other things appear later on Film or on the display but again, with the Rays Not cosmic Radiation, we don´t want to upset someone, here I get more often lucky. "BUT", there are also times, where you can concentrate your Brains out and you get nothing! That happens too. But should you start photographing something unusual and you see it on your LCD Display, keep pushing that button.

And after I'm finished, how I am supposed to know that I got the Reptoid?
If you should ever photograph a Reptoid, ten they like you too or you have something interesting, that they are interested in. They might even inspire you to do something out of the ordinary like inventing things, that don´t exist yet. Aside of the Reptoids, you might photograph some other Entity's or even Ghosts.

One time in 1988, I had 5 Models of Ufos stalked on top of the other one and I took a photograph of it. When I got the photographs, there was e pink and wrinkly hand with three fingers visible that tried to grab the Ufo at the top.

After all, if he is invisible I won't have the faintest idea of what he looks like...
But with a camera, you can catch his image! With or without a Flash. When you´re out there, where a lot of people are present or are having a party, ...than you´re probably not alone. Place your Flash up to a maximum strength, don´t worry about over exposing the people or who knows what in front of you if you want to catch ETs instead of your friends.

I do agree that inventing things that do exist already is quite ordinary.

On the other hand, if you're out there where nobody is around...then you probably are alone. But seriously, you use things that show up in overexposed, highly flashed images ("Place your Flash up to a maximum strength, don´t worry about over exposing the people or who knows what in front of you if you want to catch ETs instead of your friends.
") as evidence of things being there than cannot be seen? Even though basic photography teaches us that this kind of settings will give you high likeliness of reflections, overexposed nearby dust etc? But you have to jump too the conclusion that it are ET's rather than overexposed dust, bugs, reflections... It is quite clear that Occam's razor does not sharpen in your pyramids.

Very interesting. Especially your jumping to conclusions, again.

I for one, love the smell of evidence in the morning. Got some? For all I know, this may be explained by something as mundane as car salesmen without any further evidence...

The list of claims is piling up to ridiculous heights here, but where's the evidence? All we got so far are pics of what you say are meteorites, but even that claim has not yet been proven.

For all the other claims, related or not, no evidence at all has been given.

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I just invented something absolutely existing and already well known:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wheel

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Looking at the photos to the site [b]Nicolas[/i] linked to, the object looks less like a meteorite and more like a large coral.

There exists a site that someone put up that can be used to confirm wether or not one has a meteorite in their posession. I can't recall the name, though. I hope someone else here knows what I speak of.

You claim to have something new.
What proof do you have? What evidence? Photos and arrows pointing to features are hardly evidence. Your "meteorite" should be tested for what it's composition is to determine if that's what it truly is. Other tests exist as well.

I love lines like this.
It's how the scientific world works. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Unless you can prove your claims, you invite skepticism.

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Hi Gillianren;

How can you tell if a pyramid is north-facing as opposed to south-facing?

You use a Compass! I don´t know if you know that, but all of the Pyramids on Earth are facing the North!

...to all of you guys, it´s a great response to all of the matter here therefore, not to make this Thread too mixed up already, I´ve opened up two other Threads.

#1.) UFO´s, ORB´s and other Inter-Dimensional Visitors ...and
#2.) ~"/\"~ Pyramid handicraft enthusiasts and other interesting Experiments.

In those, you may keep on questioning me on what ever you like too but do not forget to place in some input of yourselves too. Also, see you there. But I will continue in answering in this Thread or move that question into the new Thread.

This has "sig line" written all over it...

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Nicolas;

Bonus points comparing yourself to Einstein: check.
Bonus points for going for the martyr role: check.
Bonus points for giving yourself more abilities than the average person: check.
Bonus points for involving loads of money somewhere: check.
Bonus points for ad hominems: check.
Bonus poins for going on the paid disinfo agent route: check.
Bonus points for involving oneself in a personal cultus: check.
Bonus points for holding back any evidence: can't put a full check there, as you have shown quite some pics of what you call meteorites. That's good.

And now for something constructive: anyone with some experience in the field of rocks, call it geology if you like, or anyone with experience in meteorites, call them space rocks if you like, have comments on the pics of the alleged meteorites? Because that is the only thing we can go by, the only thing with a touch of objectivity here.

http://picasaweb.google.com/AutumCre...lienMeteoriten[/QUOTE]

Thank You! and
@ Laguna2, ...those coins ARE still valued!!! Every so many months, they advertise in the News about, where German Marks can still be paid with! Instead of €uros because a lot of people have still have a lot of German Marks hidden in their mattraces somewhere. It´s still Millions of Marks.

@ JayUtah;

Most pyramids I've seen are up-facing.

In deed, they are but that doesn´t answer the question! You see jayUtah! You didn´t understand him here either!!?

novaderrik;

or east facing. or west facing..
maybe it depends on where you put the front door.
and if it is truly north facing, is that the magnetic north, or the other north?

It´s supposed to be to the Magnetic North.

You do know that magnetic north changes location over the years, don't you?

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

Nicolas;

The list of claims is piling up to ridiculous heights here, but where's the evidence? All we got so far are pics of what you say are meteorites, but even that claim has not yet been proven.

You know, I can´t give you guys and girls the names! Otherwise you´ll find out, where the location is.

For all the other claims, related or not, no evidence at all has been given.

Haven´t you been listening? Why don´t you take that effort in your own hands and try those experiments, that I´ve mentioned in here. When it´ll work with me then it just might work with you.

About the over exposed photographs! There are also pics there, where NO flash has been used like during the day time. Or the pics in the beginning, they too were photographed at normal flash level until I noticed that there´s more out there and so I experimented with flash levels.

@ Swift;I'm thinking maybe a fossil coral.

Finally and thanks! finally somebody starts to care about my Fossil Meteorites and yes, that is a coral but there are many more of unknown origin.

Hi peter eldergill;

You do know that magnetic north changes location over the years, don't you?

If you´re talking to me? "Yes", yes I do. The great Pyramids are also quite some degrees off!

See, that's the thing...you've made the claim that you found a meteorite with fossils in it. When you say that on a science board, you will be expected to provide evidence to support that claim.

Either provide that evidence or retract your claim

If you don't understand "scientific terms" then you shouldn't be using them to describe anything. (Well, you can try, but on this board you won't be fooling anyone but yourself.)

Some concepts can only be simplified so much.
There really is no "substitute" for an education.

What qualifies you to determine whether or not your "whatever" contains fossils or not??

For that matter...what convinces you that what you have found is a meteorite at all???

What do you mean by appearence of radiation?...or is "radiation" another of those words that means something different to you than it does to us??

To who?? Any collector of meteorites would be very leary of your claims particularly after reading this thread.

Go straight to the "top" I say. Why bother saying, "they laughed at Galileo", when you can just as easily say, "they laughed at Einstein"??

Now all you need to do is demonstrate that your claims are valid...as Einstein did.

If you do not understand fairly simple scientific terms...if you insteadinsist using words that make little sense, then there is very little use in you continuing to post to a science board, but I have a "feeling" that won't stop you from continuing.

No...you want them to pay you for your "fossil meteorite".

We're suppose to "guess" at what you mean?

Will your sales pitch be as convincing as your posted claims?

If you can't convince those here that your claims are valid, I don't see how you could possibily interest potential collectors.

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Nice that you think that I care, but I don't really. I agree with Grand_Lunar and others, I think you have a bunch of nice, but very Earthly fossils. It is absolutely up to you prove otherwise and I have seen no evidence of that.

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No. The Deutsche Mark is no longer a valid currency.
I do not care if someone still accepts those coins.
I could as likely say that white stones are a valid currency as my neighbour does accept them when you pay for his honey.

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My thought also...just hadn't gotten around to mentioning it.

What Swift is saying is that what you have is NOT a meteorite. You do understand that, right??

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Now, are they facing north, or are they not?

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Heck, I'm still trying to come to terms with:

it doesn´t matter whether it´s in the summer or winter, as long as it´s room temperature outside of that Pyramid.

That must be an especially even-temper[atur]ed part of Canada.

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