Are there any online readable examples of conspiracy theorist who were once very vocal in believing the Moon Landing was a hoax coming around to believing it was not a hoax (and becoming vocal for real scientific evidence)?

Well, there's this, reply #21, from Apollo_Hoax. Unfortunately it was spawned from a very long thread, but I think his original claim is on this page, reply #588.

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The old ApolloHoax had several threads from a guy who posted literally for years nearly daily, and in the end changed his mind.

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Clavius Moon Base

The old ApolloHoax had several threads from a guy who posted literally for years nearly daily, and in the end changed his mind.

Did you initially suspect a trick? I would have.

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Moor's Law: "As you go from freshman engineering to Ph.D., the amount of work required per credit hour doubles approximately every 18 months." --me, inspired by Prof. Scott Moor

Seems like more and more, what we have instead is new posters who open with "I'm a believer in the moon landings, but I just have a couple of questions........"

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The apollohoax forum itself was started by a believer in the hoax theory that changed his mind.

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I get PMs from previous fence-sitters almost on a daily basis, who say they now understand Apollo better, and because of that, believe it happened.

As for the entrenched HBs, I've never seen one do a complete 180. The closest I came was getting one on YT to admit that his perception of a Jack White photo "analysis" was completely wrong, and that White had in fact been deceptive. He shocked the crap out of me when one day he boldly declared, "You were right, I was wrong". Right after that however, he started screaming about anomalies in the size of the sun's reflection in the visors, so all my work was for naught.

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Apollo unbelievers go here for immediate salvation:
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"I had a hand in Tom Morrow's kiester."
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"The only physical proof nasa has that they landed men on the moon is 840 lbs. of rocks"
-straydog02

As for the entrenched HBs, I've never seen one do a complete 180.



Stupidity does have a tendency for being a one way street.


David

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But you're sure the astronauts are lying; you just don't seem to know what they're lying about. jayutah

Did you initially suspect a trick? I would have.

In other cases I would, but in that case I didn't because it would not have fit his argument style. He argued pretty much on the basis of evidence (albeit his interpretation of it) and didn't stoop to petty rhetorical tricks.

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Clavius Moon Base

I get PMs from previous fence-sitters almost on a daily basis, who say they now understand Apollo better, and because of that, believe it happened.

I get those too. They're great to read. They're why I do this.

About twice a year I get e-mail from people who actually worked on Apollo who say things like, "You know, I always wondered why [insert detail], and your site answered it." Despite the cumbersome raisons-d'etre, works like Clavius and Lunar Legacy satisfy an historical need.

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LOL, well I'm not giving up on my quest to bag an elephant. I just have to find one who managed to pull out the probes before assimilation was complete.

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Apollo unbelievers go here for immediate salvation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc

"I had a hand in Tom Morrow's kiester."
-JayUtah

"The only physical proof nasa has that they landed men on the moon is 840 lbs. of rocks"
-straydog02

Funny thing, I remember registering this name and the password to get in but I don't remember making this thread.

Well, thanks guy. It's good to hear at least some progress is made time to time.

Edit: What does HBs stand for?

Moose!...perhaps you should have chosen another user name to avoid confusion as there is already a Moose posting here...

Hey! why not go with MOUSSE

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But you're sure the astronauts are lying; you just don't seem to know what they're lying about. jayutah

Ah, I apologize for any confusion. It did not even occur to me to check if there was already a "Moose", rather I just went straight with "Moose!" since that's how people always say it when referring to me.

I do not intend to be a highly active poster but if it is a problem and a Mod or Admin wishes to change my name to something less confusing for when I do post, that would be fine with me.

Squirrel, perhap?





I'm showing my age...

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Ah yez, mooze and squirrel!

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"Hoax believers." It's common shorthand around here, so we forget that people don't automatically know it.

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Squirrel, perhap?

Congratulations on making me laugh out loud--good thing there was no one else in the computer lab.

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"When your statics problem becomes a dynamics problem, you're in trouble." --me

Moor's Law: "As you go from freshman engineering to Ph.D., the amount of work required per credit hour doubles approximately every 18 months." --me, inspired by Prof. Scott Moor

Ah yez, mooze and squirrel!

During the 1990s The Bob & Tom Show had a parody of colorful Chicago Cubs baseball announcer Harry Caray as host of a fictional radio sports talk show. One episode featured Garry Kasparov as a "guest," right after his 1997 loss to chess computer Deep Blue. Part of the dialog went approximately (I'm quoting from memory):

Harry: "What! You want a rematch?? B-what are you, retarded?!? That computer <pause> made you its [female dog]! Maybe you should try <pause> a simpler game, like Hungry Hungry Hippos!"

Kasparov: <thick Russian accent> "No. Is no game for me but chess. I love the strategy and the tactics; the thrill of the hunt--<grunting> must kill <grunting> moose and squirrel <grunting>."

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"When your statics problem becomes a dynamics problem, you're in trouble." --me

Moor's Law: "As you go from freshman engineering to Ph.D., the amount of work required per credit hour doubles approximately every 18 months." --me, inspired by Prof. Scott Moor

It's of no significance, but the 1969 lunar landing was unauthentic. Probably filmed in Scandinavia someplace.

I see they have found Nessie.