Well, it had to happen...
http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
We've seen every imaginable crackpot notion proposed to explain the moon hoax idea, from pictures of the Earth taped to windows, to astronauts on wires, movie studios and and global conspiracies involving tens of thousands of people for decades. This one, though, takes the biscuit for sheer stupidity.
The premise? NASA provided too much evidence for it to be real! Yes, that's right folks, TOO MUCH evidence. Apparently, according to this nutjob (who claims to have spent three years formulating this idea), the sheer volume of photographic evidence is proof positive of fakery, since it is impossible for them all to have been taken during the EVA's. The mind boggles.

Here is a sample of this scholarly work:

The agency wants the world to believe that 5771 photographs were taken in 4834 minutes! IF NOTHING BUT PHOTOGRAPHY HAD BEEN DONE, such a feat is clearly impossible...made even more so by all the documented activities of the astronauts. Imagine...1.19 photos every minute that men were on the Moon –- that's one picture every 50 SECONDS!

The secret NASA tried to hide has been discovered: The quantity of photos purporting to record the Apollo lunar EVAs could not have been taken on the Moon in such an impossible time frame. So why do these photos exist? How did these photos get made? Did ANY men go to the Moon? Or was it truly the greatest hoax ever?

You have it right there, folks. It's impossible to take a picture every 50 seconds and clearly absurd to take a lot of pictures every few seconds and then move on to other things - ergo, we've been duped,
Sigh - Sadly, drinking myself into a stupor at this juncture is not an option.

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Wasn't there more than one person taking these photographs? Thus the photo/minutes on the moon ratio would be incorrect.

I think it is quite possible to take more than 1 picture per 50 seconds using glass plates and a stand camera where you have to take the lens cap off to make the exposure.

Two such cameras would really ramp the rates up.

Is that the best that's out there now?

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See also topics:

Huge image update on Aulis - many new photo analysis

Jack White says "Not enough time for all that photos"

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He has an 'answer' for that - that didn't take pictures at the same time

01101001 (can I call you 105?) - I didn't realise it had been around for that long

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I answer to any old equivalence.

It just sounded familiar (and actually, I thought there was a very recent mention of same argument -- perhaps from a different site), and a Google search of the BAUTforum site for aulis.com and skeleton yielded a couple of hits.

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We've discussed this accusation before. I think this is the most recent thread on it.

I didn't check. Is this the same guy?

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Yep, the standard misinterpretation of what an average means.

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But even if you misinterpret what an average means, one pic every 50 seconds. Two persons on the moon. So each astronaut would have to take 1 pic every minute and 40 seconds. How's that impossible? Seriously, do the dishes but take a pic every minute and 40 seconds. Is it impossible for you to take the pics and do the dishes properly?

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It becomes even more laughable when you recall that in the video and film you can actually watch the astronauts doing their various activites and taking pictures....

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Never let the facts get in the way.....

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But you're sure the astronauts are lying; you just don't seem to know what they're lying about. jayutah

Yes, but when you consider the layers of lead shielding you have to put around the camera to prevent the film from being fried by the Van Allen belts, and the air conditioning unit you have to fit to prevent the film from being melted by the high temperatures on the moon...

Anyway, I've done the maths. I won't show anyone my figures because nobody here is intelligent enough to understand them. The results show that it MUST take exactly 1 minute and 41 seconds to take one photograph. So it can't have happened.

Phew, it's getting harder to satirise these days, isn't it?

I won't show anyone my figures because nobody here is intelligent enough to understand them.



It works for Gordon Brown......(UK gag)


David

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But you're sure the astronauts are lying; you just don't seem to know what they're lying about. jayutah

Wow, 1 photo every 50 seconds on average?

Think of all those pans the astronauts photographed! How many seconds do you think were in between two photographs in a pan? How many photographs were done right after each other?

How stupid.

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Wow, 1 photo every 50 seconds on average?
Think of all those pans the astronauts photographed! How many seconds do you think were in between two photographs in a pan? How many photographs were done right after each other?
How stupid.

Well, if HB's didn't mis-interpret data and not understand simple common-sense facts, then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on now would they?

As Jim pointed out, this isn't the first time this claim has been made. And it 'tis a rather silly claim. Say the average is one photo every 50 seconds, but you snap a 6-photo panorama in a minute. That means you have four minutes (five minus the one min it took to take the photos) before you must take your next photograph. Take more than 6 shots in a minute, and the time between the next shots to maintain the average is even longer.

Like Jay said, this is just a simple misunderstanding of what an average is (or in my opinion ignoring it on pusporse to support the fantastic claim that we never went to the moon).

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There is a question-begging component to this claim, to be sure. I recently took apart a computer desk in order to send it to my sister. As a reference to reassembly, I photographed the relative placement of the pieces (which I labeled in grease pencil prior to the photography) and the fasteners to be used at each joint. That averaged out to a photograph every 30-40 seconds, but I still got the desk taken apart.

The misinterpretation of average is what I consider the "interesting" aspect to this claim because it's relatively less common in hoax claims. It's based on the notion that ten Wookies and ten Oompah-Loompahs may average out to 20 normal-sized people, but that average height isn't represented directly anywhere in the sample. If you take ten pictures in a panorama, you now have several minutes in which you don't need to take any picture. Computing the average does not therefore establish a uniform distribution among the data.

The beauty of that discussion of averages is that you don't have to be an expert in Apollo or in photography in order to see where this time study "analysis" breaks down. You just have to be, well...not an idiot.

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The beauty of that discussion of averages is that you don't have to be an expert in Apollo or in photography in order to see where this time study "analysis" breaks down. You just have to be, well...not an idiot.
I beg to differ, as I find it easy to see where the "analysis breaks down", but my sig clearly notes that I do not meet your requirement to see this

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Theory of Zombie Relativity:
1) Everyone Else is a Zombie relative to You
2) Whether or not it matters is related to the inverse square of the distance between their teeth and your brain
(Quoted from Demigrog)

To me, there are several factors at play here.

First, some folks just want to prove that Apollo was faked. Any "evidence" they can find that seems even vaguely to support their foregone conclusion is accepted as completely valid, no discussion necessary.

Second, they don't understand the meaning of "average," or that two people were taking photos, or that not every photo was posed or perfect, or that you can take photos and do work, too... IOW, the mechanics escape them.

But, I also think they fail to realize just how long a minute really is. If they had an appreciation for it, they'd realize just how much you can get done in 60 - or even 50 - seconds.

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...but my sig clearly notes that I do not meet your requirement to see this

They prefer solely the term savant now. The most famous of them, Kim Peek, lives in my town and attends the same library where I do much research. He's a sort of celebrity there. I spoke briefly with him and his guardian a few years ago and showed him my web site.

He memorized it. The whole site.

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