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Old 15-June-2007, 01:55 AM
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One of the more notorious 11th of September conspiracy peddlers, the man who burned his rabbit cage to simulate the event, has turned his 'investigative' skills onto the Apollo Landings

Sadly, it's nothing we have not seen before, and includes all the stuff usually bought up....

At the very least I would have expected to see a video of him trying to simulate Apollo by shooting fireworks at the broad side of a barn.
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Old 15-June-2007, 03:03 AM
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Toseeked by JREF.

...wherein is written
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Left a comment directing him to www.clavius.org and their message board. My bet is he won't go within a parsec of it--some very good brains on the space mission live over there.
I have such a warm fuzzy feeling right now!
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Old 15-June-2007, 03:11 AM
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The most enjoyable aspect of that site are the reader comments flaming him...I'm surprised he hasn't nixed 'em.

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So wait... let me get this straight...

You claim that the US government has the technology to put into orbit a directed energy weapons system capable of vaporizing more than 100,000 tons of steel through 100 miles of atmosphere without needing a power supply the size of Rhode Island, while at the same time claiming that the US government does not have the technology to put 3 men and a video camera on the moon?

I think it's time you went back to torching rabbit cages and playing with toy wooden airplanes, Spooky.
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Old 15-June-2007, 06:18 AM
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...wherein is written
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Left a comment directing him to www.clavius.org and their message board. My bet is he won't go within a parsec of it--some very good brains on the space mission live over there.
I have such a warm fuzzy feeling right now!
If he should show up, it will probably be like the Kessel Run for him.

Hey, somebody has to guide the meatwagon!
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...You claim that the US government has the technology to put into orbit a directed energy weapons system capable of vaporizing more than 100,000 tons of steel through 100 miles of atmosphere without needing a power supply the size of Rhode Island, while at the same time claiming that the US government does not have the technology to put 3 men and a video camera on the moon?
Or, equivalently, the US government has the technology to build vaccuum-chamber, 1/6 earth-gravity, kilometer-long soundstages but can't land three men on the moon (or does the same but "forgets" to add stars in the sky).

You just can't win with CT believers...

BTW, Graham2001, wouldn't your Venusians be drinking electrical coronas, not smoking them? (unless there's another Corona besides the pale yellow liquid that comes from Mexico City)
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Old 15-June-2007, 01:53 PM
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It really burns my hiney that the Sibrel "cutouts in the window" is still being used as "evidence", when ever a cursory examination shows that old Bart is flat out wrong about this.

It reminds me of the "no stars" argument...the truth of the matter can be easily found, if one only bothers to look for it.

Which is, IMO, the reason why he doesn't want anyone to read the negative reviews.
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When one pays attention only to one side of an issue, there is no such thing as an "old" argument.
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The HBs have no interest in space travel, spaceflight technology, spacesuits, or big frikken rockets. We do, they are fascinating and we enjoy discussing the technical aspects of all the space related stuff.
The HBs find this dull and tedious, their bread and butter is conspiracy, the bigger the better. The fact that they don't know even the basics of what science and physics are behind their theories doesn't matter. It's the idea of government operatives, MIBs, bribery, blackmail, murder and intrigue that fascinates them.
There's no conspiracy they won't latch onto once they get going. An amazing thing to watch.
Meanwhile, I'm watching the ISS/Shuttle crews doing more work in space.
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BTW, Graham2001, wouldn't your Venusians be drinking electrical coronas, not smoking them? (unless there's another Corona besides the pale yellow liquid that comes from Mexico City)
Corona is also a classic cigar shape (or vitola), nominally 5½ inches in length, with a ring gauge of 42 (diameter, in 64ths of an inch).

No reason that Venusians living the good life can't do both, though.

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Old 15-June-2007, 05:51 PM
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No reason that Venusians living the good life can't do both, though.

Unless there's a Venusian lime shortage. We all know you can't drink a Corona without the lime.
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It's the idea of government operatives, MIBs, bribery, blackmail, murder and intrigue that fascinates them.

I can't agree more. It's all about manufacturing Lex Luthors so that they can play either Lois Lane or Superman, depending on whether their worldview is defined by being seen as victim ("Those big government contractors have all the cushy jobs.") or hero ("I'm smart; I figured out that Apollo was hoaxed even though they did their best to fake it."). And they get really mad when someone comes along and throws all that kryptonite on their fantasy.
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It's all about manufacturing Lex Luthors so that they can play either Lois Lane or Superman
It's no fun being David if there's no Goliath. And lets face it, who better than to play the part of Goliath than the United States government (including NASA).
Pop media has always played off of this particular theme; the underdog heroically taking down the evil tyrant against all odds. I think the story has been so engrained into our culture that some people seem to think that it's a given that real life will follow this same path, and so they desperately try to sculpt reality to fit the story they've weaved in their own minds.

The kinda sad thing is the ammount of real life problems that creative thinking could actually possibly solve. As much as we probably hate to admit it, some of these people have a real knack for making unusual connections and seeing things that others don't (a.k.a. "thinking outside the box). Wouldn't it be nice if they could actually find something productive to work on, rather than trying to uncover a truth that simply doesn't exist?
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[It's no fun being David if there's no Goliath.
You obviously haven't read about the partying David did after Goliath.
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[edit](a.k.a. "thinking outside the box)...
Thinking outside the box is OK as long as you don't get so far out you can no longer see the box.
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(a.k.a. "thinking outside the box).
Just so long as you don't set it on fire!
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The most disturbing of part of this GARBAGE is his saying that the crew of Apollo 1 was murdered by NASA!

If Commander Grissom was going to blow the "Whistle" why not off him in a car crash? Why delay the program AND bring even more public attention to the hoax? Especially Congressional attention!

Why kill Ed White , Mr.'Red, White, and blue all over" ?, I'm sure he would have done ANYTHING that NASA said including faking the landings , he was pretty damn loyal to his cause.

On top of insulting the Memory of ALL of the fallen astronauts , this Rude Hack , insults the living Apollo veterans (My personal heroes) and the amazing , magical lack of any real evidence makes it all the more aggrivating.

Maybe Buzz Aldrin should pay a visit to this jerk too and give him the Sibrel treatment , I do not usually advocate punching a man in the nose , but I also do not usually see this sort of disrespect shown to dead heroes , *deep breath*

I did like the link to Niel's "bedpost" Crash though , that'll wake you up!
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If Commander Grissom was going to blow the "Whistle" why not off him in a car crash? Why delay the program AND bring even more public attention to the hoax? Especially Congressional attention!
I thought about that too, but...

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Obviously NASA was hoping that killing the Apollo1 crew would result in the cancellation of the whole program and they wouldn't have to continue with the fake...
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Obviously NASA was hoping that killing the Apollo1 crew would result in the cancellation of the whole program and they wouldn't have to continue with the fake...
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Naw, it was just part of an ongoing "prank-war" between the crew and control center. You know, first shavinging [edit: "shavinging"? I didn't know it was possible to stutter via text] cream on the hand while sleeping, then letting the air out of one's tires, then putting a horsehead in the other person's bed while they sleep....but the crew really got outpranked when NASA cooked them alive....
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