Would I report it? That depends entirely on what it was. If it were something that were impossible to identify, such as a distant light or a blurred shape, then no. I'd figure it's just a planet or atmospheric disturbance or maybe an aircraft.

If I saw something that I got a very good look at, and it was undeniable something that I could see was solid and different from what I had seen before. For example: Some sort of military aircraft or something.

There was a guy a while back (sorry I cannot find the source) who reported seeing a strange shaped aircraft with very long wings being followed by two air force chase planes. As he lived near Edwards AFB, be reported it to a media outlet and concluded it may have been a secret military aircraft of some type. It was somewhat taken out of context by some of the conspiracy folks, who claimed it was a reverse-engineered flying saucer or something.

Long story short: Turns out he was right. Not long after the citing, the project was revealed to the public. It seems it was tested in his area and he made the correct determination. This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RQ-3_Dark_Star


Now, if I saw an actual craft that was undeniably alien? Well, I don't know what I'd do in that situation. I am not too concerned though. I also don't know what I would do if monkey flew out of my butt. But I'm not too worried about that happening.

I actually have a contingency plan in case that happens.

Careful.

If it's a Rhesus, you might go to pieces.


Meanwhile, back OT, in this "post-modern" age, everything comes around again, so it's just a matter of time until flying saucers (you know, the "real" ones like "Earth vs." (Ray Harryhausen's)) are deemed to be "retro" and suddenly reappear everywhere.

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Would bring a whole new meaning to being Rh+ , although I'm not sure immunoglobulins would do much in this case.

Seriously I don't have much to add except to wonder how much in the "general consciousness" aliens are now-a-days, are people ascribing unknown sightings to something else now? It would be interesting to track reported sightings along with various Sci-Fi film releases though

after Independence Day came out, did everyone suddenly think that every slow moving, 15 mile wide cloud was an alien ship?

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No, "V" did that.

Soon the "New Saucer" wil be reintroduced to take advantage of the nostalgia craze, but it'll really just be a vaguely saucer-shaped hull over a modern small UFO frame. It'll cost as much as a regular UFO, too. And the gravatic engine will be in the wrong place.

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I often point out lenticular clouds and say "Look a UFO". It's best on a really windy day because all the other clouds are moving, and they don't.

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No answer? I was hoping, for this fun thread, you'd have a conspiracy-theory story more fun than the truth.

The truth is, well, NASA pays me the same whether I ask relevancy questions or not. Weird, huh? Nonetheless, I therefore consider myself free to decide what question actions I myself take here -- conformant to the proprietors' rules. I'm pretty sure, if my contract-reading ability is worth anything, I'm under no obligation to ask particular questions. I can ask the questions I want to ask, when I want to ask them. Understand? It threw me at first, too.

If there's a question you want asked, and you think I should be asking it, now you know I just might not. I'm sorry, but it's going to be up to you to ask a question when you feel a question should be asked. Don't wait for me. I'll might only let you down. I've done it before. I've broken many hearts.

Good luck.

Questions?

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No, i don´t have one, why should I ?

I never said that 01101001 was an employee of NASA, so why is he making ironies like this one?

Of course 01101001 is under no obligation. But it is curious the way he claims and asks with such a strong authority for a conspiracy basis in a thread where the subject in question is the summun of conspiracy teories, but in a thread like this, making a mokery of the ufo phenomena, he chooses not to.

Questions, yes indeed. I have two:

Of whom are you asking?

Edit: Hello? Gone? I'll try to speed this up, by skipping an iteration. I put out that invitation for questions as a standard welcome after an explanation. Its purpose was to ask if you have questions of me, about what I said. Since you quoted that, I fear you might be asking your relevancy questions of me. If you are, I'm going to have to say, forthrightly, I don't know. It's true. I have no idea.

I haven't read all the articles in this topic. Strangely enough, NASA pays me the same, whether I read all the articles or not. So, once again, I take my behavior to be my choice. My superiors have never indicated it is otherwise. In the case of this topic, I chose only to read a few articles. So, if there is an answer to your question that is in one of the articles I skipped, I'm not able to help you out. I'm so sorry.

If there's not an answer in an article anywhere in the topic -- perhaps there isn't, if you're asking -- I suggest that the topic creator address your question. I probably have little influence over him, though. You may have to be more direct to find satisfaction.

If you think I somehow should know the answer, and that I am obligated to answer you, I can only say I disagree, and if that doesn't meet your expectations, please do escalate the matter to the folks who run this forum, as always.

PS: I am concerned if you are hurt by my, or our, participation in a topic that makes some sort of mockery of the UFO phenomenon -- if indeed that's the thrust of this topic, unknown to me. Might I suggest you not so cherish the UFO phenomenon that mere ideas which appear to poke fun at the topic, hurt you? If you can't do that, then perhaps you should avoid such topics in the future. I don't know what else to say. Sorry I can't be of more help.

PPS: I didn't address a lot of your questions in the previous article because they were asked in the 3rd person. I expect you're asking others why I'm behaving a certain way -- but, why on earth would third parties know my motivations? If you should actually want to know from me why I did something, you should indicate so by using phrasing such as "why do you do that" not "why does he do that".

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Are you really a NASA employee? Sometimes it´s hard for me to understand an ironic comment in english.

I could be. So far this month, NASA has paid me nothing for nothing. You might be safe to assume I am not an employee. Unless I work for the super-secret UFO Phenomenon Disinformation Division of NASA. In that case I'd probably be required to deny, or at least imply negatively, that I worked for NASA, but maybe I could hint that I did, so one just could never know for sure. I hardly know for sure!

It's a shadow world. OK, I'll say I don't. But I won't swear to it. I've denied it before without being believed, so I'm not sure what to say. If I swore I did, not everyone would believe it.

Please do trust me in this: there's nothing ironic about it. I'd classify it more in the piffle category. Officially.

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Stop messing with other people's heads, 01101001. You're scaring me.

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You sound like Pinocchio in the latest shrek movie when prince charming was asking where Shrek was knowing that he could tell if Pinocchio was lying. Funniest part of the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3We2N...elated&search=

Damnit. It's bad enough with those stupid PT-Cruisers all over the place. They are such a stupid corruption of the style they are supposed to represent it's just annoying... plastic wood grain and fiberglass bumpers pffff...

I really I hope I don't see some picstures of saucers flying around like that..

Hi, this is my first post. I am wondering why there is so much making fun of the UFO phenemenon? Of course I am not one for churchy-seriousness about anything as such. But has NOone anything sensible to say? Do you really just discount all known accounts. I dont really mean abduction accounts as such. Though thety too should be treated seriously if people are genuinely feeling some unexplainable event happened.
But why cant you both be serious sceintist AND not ALL the time take the **** about this subject?
I am not being funny, or hurt or opset. I ask this question very cooly.

Because by and large, the accounts are funny.

Please read through our background of thorough investigations into these phenomena. AFTER that, please give me a definition of "sensible" that is agreeable with you.

At the moment, yes, until such point as convincing evidence should come to light. Have any to share? Although "discount" implies we have not researched them from every possible angle. Morelike you should say we have intensely researched them and found all known accounts not credible.

Treated seriously? Yes. By a qualified counselor or other mental health professional. By a skeptic, cosmologist, etc...? There is no compelling evidence to at this point, and in fact much physical and psycho/social evidence not to.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here (it's phrased very poorly), but I AM quite certain you've used profanity, which is a rule violation on our board, which you should take very seriously, as is using astericks or other characters to attempt to simulate or circumvent this rule. Consider this a freindly warning to not attempt that again, and to also take the time to visit the "AboutBAUT" forum and familiarize yourself with the rules here.

That is good. Posting while upset rarely leads to a positive result. And on a positive note, welcome to the BAUTForum zeezishx!

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Sure, I'll give it a "shot".

There is not now, nor has there ever been credible, and/or convincing evidence that intelligent beings from other worlds have visited this planet.

How's that??

....and welcome to the board!!

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Sorry but that is the way the thread has gone. If you want my opinion, check out my website.

http://members.aol.com/tprinty/UFO.html

I guess I am close-minded on the subject as UFO proponents view it. I consider myself not so gullible as to believe everything I read or hear about UFOs. I would love to see a better effort by UFOlogists to present their case and I would be estatic if they could produce the goods. I even stated in one discussion on some board, that if convincing evidence was ever presented, I would delete my webpage and put up a new one stating that UFOs are real alien spaceships. So far, they haven't put out anything convincing or even compelling. They are far too busy trying to dig up crashed spaceships, alien bodies, or looking at old "unexplained" cases than to try and actively record UFOs real time.

I am wondering why there is so much making fun of the UFO phenemenon?

Because in the context of the perspective applied in this thread, the UFO phenomenon is funny; it follows trends in popular culture, which wouldn't be the case if they were aliens from another planet.

Do you really just discount all known accounts.

No, we just don't believe in attributing them to alien encounters without some evidence.

Some accounts can be easily dismissed as publicity seeking. Others less so, in which case you tend to find cautious interest among skeptics.

Though thety too should be treated seriously if people are genuinely feeling some unexplainable event happened.

If it's unexplainable then there should be no offense taken when some particular explanation is rejected as improbable and without evidence. Yet we find that many proponents take offense when anyone suggests that their experience was not the result of an alien intervention.

Taking someone seriously does not necessarily mean accepting his intepretation of events without question. A skilled investigator interviewing a witness knows how to separate fact from interpretation; the human brain has a tendency to mix them up unconsciously.

But why cant you both be serious sceintist AND not ALL the time take the **** about this subject?

Because a serious scientist ceases to be either serious or scientific when he lowers his standards of evidence in order to accept some preconceived explanation offered without sufficient proof.

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I heard that the flying saucers were neatly lined up in a parking facility at both Fraser's and Serentitude's abodes.... but that is just speculation...

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So help me, if you spoil my new, secret way to get to work...

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"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

so, I AM right eh? excellent! how many light years to the gallon do you get?

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Oh, two or three...

Err, IF I had such a thing, mind you...

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

of course!

2-3 ly/gallen is not too bad

what do you think of the rising hydrogen fuel costs?

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Not bad. I'm thinking of having the Niburians install a hydrogen skimmer, so I can just glide some off the surface here and there, but I haven't done a good cost analysis yet. Plus, the BA tells me that the Alpha Centaurians are supposed to be competitive with the Niburians in the next year or so, so I may just hold off

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

hmmmm I heard another unofficial tale that the BA may also have a flying saucer...and you two drag race your flying saucers in a pathway in Kuiper Belt - is this true?

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who here has read "the Dilbert Future" by Scott Adams?
i like his theory about where all the UFO's come from..

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